passion of the christ
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this thread could spark some controversy...that is not my intention...i just wanted to say this cause i found it funny.
during the filming of this movie, the actor who plays christ was struck by lightning.
- Lop0
was that a good or bad sign?
all I know is the jews are major pissed about the movie
- virtu0
controversy?!?! i think that is pretty f'n cool.
- virtu0
oh well. let them be pissed. they are pissed for stupid reasons, and they need to just get over it.
- xrusos0
The Times has no Passion for Christian forgiveness
http://www.theaustralian.news.co…interesting article on the New York Times treatment of the movie...
favorite line:
"The Christian thing to do, I guess, is to forgive The New York Times for perverting journalism and turning it to propaganda. But I need to brood about that for a while"
- illroot0
He wasn't just struck once, but twice on the set. Think God is trying to say something?
- xrusos0
did anyone see the abc interview with mel monday night?
- loudubs0
boring boring boring
- kpl0
anyone who quotes newsmax as a trustworthy source of information is an idiot.
Another score for the NY Times.
- elwolverton0
That Mel interview with Diane Sawyer was crap. Her approach to journalism is SO damned spinned. She was constantly making this pouty and skeptical faces, putting pauses before all her questions. And Mel seemed a little nervous, but she, or the editors, were accentuating that.
I think it was really poor journalism.
- Donvitoviti0
Diane could have asked him anything.... like
"Do you believe the earth is round?" and she and the editors would have made it seem like he didnt believe that.
I agree.. pure crap
- tfs__mag0
wait, the earth is round?
- elwolverton0
i loved the part when she was asking about his father's supposed disbelief in the Holocaust. when asked if Mel shared those beliefs, he said no, and that he doesn't tolerate people trying to put a wedge in his family. then the camera does a "hard copy" zoom in on his face, as if to say "what's does he REALLY mean by this? this is the pixellated face of a Jew-hater!"
- virtu0
its the liberal media trying to make a story out of nothing. what a joke...she cant just interview him...she has to make it a big dramatic deal.
mel gibson interview=new janet jacksons nipple
- one2meny0
The Jews are not major pissed. The majority of the Jewish population is not offended. It is the small few who ignore the history books. If you were to ask the History Department at Brandeis they would not disagree with what is portrayed in the movie.
- blackspade0
"mel gibson interview=new janet jacksons nipple "
last ditch effort to save a lagging career...
- virtu0
good point. seriously....unfortunatly the media tends to only give publicity to the minority opinion. a few people think some wierd way, and they make it seem like everyone thinks that way.
- mitsu0
just got this in my mailbox,
it's long, but interesting:There've been a ton of emails and forwards floating around recently from
those who've had the privilege of seeing Mel Gibson's "The Passion Of
The Christ" prior to its actual release. I thought I'd give you my reaction
after seeing it last night.The screening was on the first night of "Elevate!", a weekend-long
seminar for young people at Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano. There
were about 2,000 people there, and the movie was shown after several speakers
had taken the podium. It started around 9 and finished around 11...so I
reckon the film is about two hours in length. Frankly, I lost complete track of
time - so I can't be sure.I want you to know that I started in broadcasting when I was
13-years-old. I've been in the business of writing, performing,
production, and broadcasting for a long time. I've been a part of movies, radio,
television, stage and other productions - so I know how things are done.
I know about soundtracks and special effects and make-up and screenplays.
I think I've seen just about every kind of movie or TV show ever made -
from extremely inspirational to extremely gory. I read a lot, too - and have
covered stories and scenes that still make me wince. I also have a vivid
imagination, and have the ability to picture things as they must have
happened - or to anticipate things as they will be portrayed. I've also
seen an enormous amount of footage from Gibson's film, so I thought I knew
what was coming.But there is nothing in my existence - nothing I could have read, seen,
heard, thought, or known - that could have prepared me for what I saw on
screen last night.This is not a movie that anyone will "like". I don't think it's a movie
anyone will "love". It certainly doesn't "entertain". There isn't even
the sense that one has just watched a movie. What it is, is an experience -
on a level of primary emotion that is scarcely comprehensible. Every shred of
human preconception or predisposition is utterly stripped away. No one
will eat popcorn during this film. Some may not eat for days after they've
seen it. Quite honestly, I wanted to vomit. It hits that hard.I can see why some people are worried about how the film portrays the
Jews. They should be worried. No, it's not anti-Semitic. What it is, is
entirely shattering. There are no "winners". No one comes off looking
"good" - except Jesus. Even His own mother hesitates. As depicted, the Jewish
leaders of Jesus' day merely do what any of us would have done - and
still do. They protected their perceived "place" - their sense of safety and
security, and the satisfaction of their own "rightness". But everyone
falters. Caiphus judges. Peter denies. Judas betrays. Simon the Cyrene
balks. Mark runs away. Pilate equivocates. The crowd mocks. The soldiers
laugh. Longinus still stabs with his pilus. The centurion still carries
out his orders. And as Jesus fixes them all with a glance, they still turn
away. The Jews, the Romans, Jesus' friends - they all fall. Everyone, except
the Principal Figure. Heaven sheds a single, mighty tear - and as blood and
water spew from His side, the complacency of all creation is eternally
shattered.The film grabs you in the first five seconds, and never lets go. The
brutality, humiliation, and gore is almost inconceivable - and still
probably doesn't go far enough. The scourging alone seems to never end,
and you cringe at the sound and splatter of every blow - no matter how
steely your nerves. Even those who have known combat or prison will have
trouble, no matter their experience - because this Man was not conscripted. He
went willingly, laying down His entirety for all. It is one thing for a
soldier to die for his countrymen. It's something else entirely to think of even
a common man dying for those who hate and wish to kill him. But this is no
common man. This is the King of the Universe. The idea that anyone could
or would have gone through such punishment is unthinkable - but this Man
was completely innocent, completely holy - and paying the price for others.
He screams as He is laid upon the cross, "Father, they don't know. They
don't know..."What Gibson has done is to use all of his considerable skill to portray
the most dramatic moment of the most dramatic events since the dawn of
time. There is no escape. It's a punch to the gut that puts you on the canvas,
and you don't get up. You are simply confronted by the horror of what was
done - what had to be done - and why. Throughout the entire film, I found
myself apologizing.What you've heard about how audiences have reacted is true. There was no
sound after the film's conclusion. No noise at all. No one got up. No
one moved. The only sound one could hear was sobbing. In all my years of
public life, I have never heard anything like that.I told many of you that Gibson had reportedly re-shot the ending to
include more "hope" through the Resurrection? That's not true. The
Resurrection scene is perhaps the shortest in the entire movie - and yet
it packs a punch that can't be quantified. It is perfect. There is no way
to negotiate the meaning out of it. It simply asks, "Now, what will you
do?"I'll leave the details to you, in the hope that you will see the film -
but one thing above all stands out, and I have to tell you about it. It
comes from the end of Jesus' temptations in the wilderness - where the
Bible says Satan left him "until a more opportune time". I imagine Satan never
quit tempting Christ, but this film captures beyond words the most
opportune time. At every step of the way, Satan is there at Jesus' side -
imploring Him to quit, reasoning with Him to give up, and seducing Him to
surrender. For the first time, one gets a heart-stopping idea of the sense of
madness that must have enveloped Jesus - a sense of the evil that was at His
very elbow. The physical punishment is relentless - but it's the sense of
psychological torture that is most overwhelming. He should have quit. He
should have opened His mouth. He should have called 10,000 angels. No
one would have blamed Him. What we deserve is obvious. But He couldn't do
that. He wouldn't do that. He didn't do that. He doesn't do that. It was not
and is not His character. He was obedient, all the way to the cross - and
you feel the real meaning of that phrase in a place the human heart usually
doesn't dare to go. You understand that we are called to that same level
of obedience. With Jesus' humanity so irresistibly on display, you
understand that we have no excuse. There is no place to hide.The truth is this: Is it just a "movie"? In away, yes. But it goes far
beyond that, in a fashion I've never felt - in any forum. We may think
we "know". We know nothing. We've gone 2,000 years - used to the idea of a
pleasant story, and a sanitized Christ. We expect the ending, because
we've heard it so many times. God forgive us. This film tears that all away.
It's is as close as any of us will ever get to knowing, until we fully know.
Paul understood. "Be urgent, in and out of season."Luke wrote that Jesus reveals Himself in the breaking of the bread.
Exactly. "The Passion Of The Christ" shows that Bread being broken.
- tfs__mag0
i read that same review a few months ago, but replace jesus w/ben affleck and the passion with gigli.
- jevad0
I am not a religious person, and to be honest when asked would most of the time say I am an atheist.
I believe that there is a power in this world that governs and effects things, and that the bible is someones interpretation of this power that has got way out of hand.
I believe religion is the root cause of all evil and hatred in the world.
Having said that, from a purely cinematic interest, I will definately be going to see this film.
I have to give credit to gibson for doing something he feels so passionate about, to the point that he put in over 30,000,000 of his own money, didn't use an all star hollywood cast, and makes no apologies for what it is.
Saw an interesting interview with him a couple of days ago. Had no idea how religiously fanatical he was which has turned me off from him as an actor to be honest, but he was straight up about how and why he made the movie the way he did, which I very much respect.
- loudubs0
money makes religion go round, lets boycott this shit and make it go down