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- Danski
re: Microsoft does it again
I hate to defend the awful meatlings, but I believe the changes are the results of a rather drawn-out lawsuit initiated by a greedy patent-holder.
- jox0
Perfect! Another browser that needs it's own stylesheet.
- unfittoprint0
blame eolas.
- jox0
Legolas?
- smoothblend0
eolas vs. microsoft
that guys a dick.. now i have to update all my clients shit..
People that sue Microsoft to make me work harder should be shot!
- jh0
Anyone bothered by this here? I mean some of you use Flash and this might just make it a bit harder to get client's to use a flash solution.
Thought someone might be a bit concerned.
- dstlb0
It's both their faults, Microsoft for nicking Eolas's technology, Eolas for leaving it years before suing them over it, probably deliberately so they can try and force MS to licence the tech except MS won't so now we're all in the shit, greedy fuckers.
And yes, I'm bothered, the way it is at the moment there'll be a world of problems when people start using the new browser.
Run to the hills...
- jh0
I just hate the fact that I spend years learning Flash and convincing everyone how powerful it can be when used well and talk around the plug-in issues so that I can sell my skills and now this...
Client's will just say it's not worth the aggrovation to use Flash content - then I'm (many of us are) out of a job.
- dstlb0
I'm not convinced it'll be such a problem for developers as long as they make their sites work, users will just be pissed off at the ones that don't work.
If you do it right they shouldn't notice anything has changed.
- witch0
It's MS fault.. they could win the case easily... They were not interested in wining.... Less plugins - less competition.. Apple, Macromedia, Adobe.... What did Microsoft loose? well.. ok.. They didn't except that to be so high.. Nevertheless, Eolas will never see half a billion.. But now you have to think twice before using plugins... so you client will think 3 times..
- gabriel_pc0
I really doubt that MS could've won it easily. If they could've one it easily, we would never have even heard about it.
- 4cY0
try to rely on html more.
flash is over.
soon we'll all be ascii-art'ing and hypertexting our ways to Gopher!
The future is now.
- unknown0
didn't your mom teach you to post a link first before you talk?
- 4cY0
it's old news already.
and the news is everywhere.
- DigitalMe0
I think it's a big flap about nothing. My clients love to chat about stuff they see in the news, but at the end of the day they don't know or care, or want to. They expect me to do that, as they should.
As for creating one more step for developers, it wouldn't surprise me if Macromedia suddenly had updates to the "publish" function to incorporate the requirements automagically. I'm sure, in any case, the fixes/workarounds will be overly documented on the internet and, if you're like me, incorporated into my base HTML/site template.
today's news, not tomorrow's.
- XC010
link please!
we all know, the PV-AN threads last alot longer than the PBS posts
- jh0
I feel as though the real issue is that those who have invested their time in learning flash (et al) skills and have taken considerable time to win over scepitcal clients now have to use an extra level of coding to add the content into pages.
In my case my main clients use a CMS so adding JS to the page (the work around) is NOT straight forward since the site CMS is designed to control (lock out such things) I know this to be the case on a number of CMS systems for large clients.
I just feel frustrated that for most of us life got harder rather than easier.
- quik0
yeah wheres the fucking link?
I have no idea whats going on.
- jh0
- jh0
as zeldman says - it's not good for macromedia who pretty much rely on the plug-in technology for their business. In turn that means it's not great for us who rely on selling or designs using MM's technology to pay our bills
- mbr0
Personally, I think the judge is at fault. I don't really give a shit about a patent that was slept on for so long. We are in a dynamic time, things move quickly and live or die based on the acceptance of a few months.
We are talking YEARS here folks! What hole did they have their heads in that they just felt like doing it now??!!
So to award $500million and cause pain and sufffering for everyone that is involved in developing we pages, from client to programmer, WILL have an impact on the industry, and, in turn, anyone that views the web.That, to me, is way short sighted. Give the guys some f*ckin' money, and send 'em home!! For those of us that only build a few sites a year, more code sucks and will take time, which will cost the client more, which will make it a less valuable service.
This is basically like taking the buttons off a coat and saying 'oh, you gotta buy those - extra' , and the analogies could go on and on.