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- monkeyshine
A back-end design firm has asked me to redesign their site and also contract out to do front end work for them. The catch is that I cannot use any work I do for them in my portfolio.
Anyone else have a situation like this? How do you account for work you're doing?
- unfittoprint0
do the work...
...and after, include it on the folio.
- unknown0
I was going to say 'looking up skirts' but it doesn't seem so fitting now.
well, except for the whole backend/frontend thing.
- ribit0
Shouldnt they allow it if you present it as "working as part of the (company name) design team"?
- Duane0
maybe you could get them to agree to letting you show it after a set time period?
- JazX0
sure, sell your soul baby. Tennessee, Tennessee
- monkeyshine0
:) thanks, Jason. I can *always*count on you to make me feel better.
I've never before been asked not to show work. I've had to carefully include copyright info but not this.
Putting a time limit on the clause is a good idea. I want to think of some good options/compromises before I sign something.
- jg_20
i am not sure, but based on the intellectual property of your work you can use the stuff you make there as a demonstration of your skills.
maybe that business people are trying to abuse. talk to a lawyer but i think you have more than a issue to include that on your folio.
on the other side you should include always credits. the studio, the collaborators.... blabla... to be avoid possible ego problems, ya know!
- nosaj0
I have worked on a number of projects in which I couldn't show a sole any of the work. From large Consulting Firms that want control of how there name is used and presented, to internal Flash presentations for large Telco's. Thing is these projects are among the best paying. Do the work, improve your skills and get paid.
- dopepope0
Think of it like an author writing under a pen name. It's still your work. Weather it's great or awful you'll know it was you.
- Redmond0
I think the point is that he wants to use it to get more jobs later.
- Bio0
yo d!
my thoughts:
on your site, mke th portfolio section for clients pwd protected (htaccess is easy enough) then slap it up there after it is all done.in my folio, i put a copyright symbol and the name of my old company just in case there were some legal issues. probably wouldnt have mattered, but . . .
anyway, i say take the job and after it's done... use it anyway. unless you sign something, then it doesnt matter one way or the other. and even if you sign something... you can sometimes get away with it. just dont put it on a public accessable page on your site. then you might have some trouble.
=)
- monkeyshine0
I guess I can do the work and then keep a hidden portfolio that I can show on a case by case individual basis.
- BonSeff0
"do the work...
...and after, include it on the folio.
unfittoprint
(aug 28 03) "truer words..
they are exploiting your talents.
show your work
- monkeyshine0
yo E! <~3
You must have planted that idea in my head right before I posted my last post.Are you sykik?
- BonSeff0
hey did you get a new job?
hope things eased up at the other place you spoke of
- jg_20
consult a lawyer. is not so difficult. some of the stuff in my portfolio are copyright, (with some money-foundations behind), but i use them freely. is my work. they are not going to steal my right to show it.
corporate pigs
- monkeyshine0
Hey BonSeff. Thanks. I'm transitioning into the world of freelance by November 1. Very scary but I'm sooo relieved to get the $%@! out.
Thanks jg_2...wow, I guess I should talk to an attorney because I just now realize that they're probably going to try to get me to sign a work for hire agreement so they have rights to my work.
It seems like if you do freelance work for a design firm, they would not want you, the freelancer, to showcase the work as your own. No? Maybe I should tell them that I will agree to their work for hire but they have to pay me x amount more to own the copyright.
- BonSeff0
a rights transferred fee
there you go! normally it would sound silly to do that for a regular small biz client
but if its for a design firm, he'll yes! do it. your work is polishing their image.
essentially you are a vendor. photographers do this all the time.
- unknown0
They won't know if you're just putting it in your private folio you go around to clients with will you.
- runDMB0
I'd tell them you'll want significantly more money for working under their auspices and tell them why (ie. it directly affects your ability to win future clients and helps them. Extra money would compensate that loss).