Salary? opinions plz...
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- vellan
so i am working at this pretty cool company doing pretty cool work. unfortunately, my salary is a little low, but i needed work and they claimed a low budget.
i have been here 2 weeks, and have put in 55+ hour weeks for both of them, including a 13 hour day yesterday. i also have to come in all sunday.
so here's my question...i like working here, and don't want to jeopardize anything, but i think i deserve a little more scrilla. should i talk to the managment and explain that when i agreed to the salary, it was assumed that it was for a 45 hour week, not a 55-60 hour week and sundays? would i be hurting my chances for more work? should i just take the hit and count it as an expense for getting in good with the business?
longpost...sorry...but it is about cash, so...
- jgjh1510
Hey, if your on a set salary, why you putting in so many extra hours? Does anyone give you anything for free? If I was paid for my extra time, I would be more than happy to give more hours, but I'm not and my life invloves other commitments. Just how I feel sometimes. I don't know how you should do it. Me personally, I would wait till it's been a few more weeks.
Good luck!
- mitsu0
do you get paid OT?
- mitsu0
(for weekends)?
- Bio0
set salaries are based on 40 hour work weeks.
a couple hours here and there... ok. 15 hours overtime...
not "no" but " http://FUCKhttp://NO! "i dont like it when people use me. it upsets me and when i get upset, i break things.
i would ask how much you are making, just to get an idea of how badly you are being fucked, but i wouldnt expect you to answer.
- Bio0
somethin' like that, yea.
- bhawk0
I don't know. I say ride it out for a time if you feel your still being taken advantage of then ask for more money. But if those extra hours are spent figuring stuff out and learnning new stuff, the just swollow it and consider it experince.
Another, if it is even ended, if people around you are working just as hard and your not pick up their slack, live with it.
- my 2 cents
- Duane0
depending upon the environment where you work, it may not be a good idea to say anything. especially in this economy. smaller studios require that you do whatever it takes to get a job done. that would never float where i work (although you could openly bitch about it all you wanted - you just wouldn't get overtime). i think the general opinion of management could be that you lack passion. it is just a job though and a decision only you could make. talk to the other designers there and get their input first.
- Bluejam0
It's a rights of passage thang...
...i remember pulling the same sort of hours when i first started.
...you gotta step up to the challenge, especially two weeks in. Show 'em how good you are, willing to go the distance for the company...etc
You will be rewarded.
- bhawk0
Well put Bluejam.
- Duane0
bluejam nailed it. patience is a virtue. all my buddies who were quick to cash in any way they could are all unemployed. appreciate what you have and learn everything you can.
- auricom0
i'm sort of in the same boat. extremely low salary, company wanting at least 45-48 hrs a week, plus i have an hour commute. i've been here for almost 3 months.
i told them that unless they can raise my salary, i'm in at 9, i'm out at 5. if they aren't willing to go the distance, neither am i. the more time i'm here not getting paid, the less time i'm home doing freelance work so i can make ends meat.
i wish i could just freelance, the commute sucks balls to this joint.
- Bio0
i agree to an extent, but it is not a good sign if a company sticks you with 30+ hours of overtime in your first two weeks without compensation.
i would agree in that you might wanna stick it out a little bit. but i would not want to continue at that pace without some sort of compensation.
- Duane0
very true bio. you have to feel it out. people will take advantage of you if they can.
- Bio0
yea. it's a tough call either way.
1. you piss them off and lose your job to someone who will work for less.
2. they tell you they cant do it and you will have to let the issue drop while you continue to bust your ass.
3. they give you a big fat raise and some live-in hookers for your new penthouse.
best of luck to you whatever happnes. good jobs are hard to find. but bad people are everywhere.
- JeanCoutu0
Come on, we should never work for nothing, we already make 40 hours per week and work really hard. Life too short to give time.
Remember this, the day that you will no more be in there plan they will lay you off even if you are the best. Business is business, and nothing is free, the overtime you do, they will charge it to the client. Ask you part of the cake !
- bhawk0
man good advice today..it must be friday everybody is feelin a little Zen. But ya workin in a small firm blows sometimes. It all about the dynamic and synergy that is created. Unfortunatly, this is hard to come by. Most of the time people just like to milk ya. Eventually the teet get a little sore. I think it really depends if your bosses are designers, I think that makes all the difference.
"Penthouse" to funny Bio.
- vellan0
thanks everyone (esp. bio, bhawk, bj and testp)
here is some info:
1) small firm
2)good work
3)mostly good workers (including cool managment)
4) lower than average pay
5) tonnes of OT without pay
6) set funding for project, so they are not dumping my costs to the client
6) i have more corporate work to fall back on, but it is inconsistent and boring as fuck.and so on. i am gonna play it by ear, but if it doesn't slow down a bit, ima ask for a little more...not much, just a little more...i don't want to risk losing the job (becuase more can come out of this in the future...ie when the project gets the go for a second, full season)
7)
- bhawk0
You are setting the funding for the project. Man that's a recipe for discontent.
- mitsu0
"You are only worth what you can believe you are worth."