America is dead

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  • Salarrue1

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/0…

    "In this new cold war, a deindustrialized United States is a disarmed United States—a country that is precariously vulnerable to coercion, espionage, and foreign interference. Preserving American preeminence will require reconstituting a national manufacturing arrangement that is both safe and reliable—particularly in critical high-tech sectors. If the United States is to secure its supply chains and information networks against Chinese attacks, it needs to reindustrialize. The question today is not whether America’s manufacturing jobs can return, but whether America can afford not to bring them back."

    • industrial automation that would bring the US or UK in line with the countries they import from without first destroying legal monopolies that further profit akingsteven
    • rulling class = civil warkingsteven
    • Outsource everything to China
      What did the US expect would happen?
      utopian
    • /\ In fairness it's the same in canada and most of the world. Production is a tangible thing we gave up in the pursuit of investing in the idea of easy.ben_
    • Bring in Mexico as a protectorate, like Puerto Rico, and have them serve as our source of cheap manufacturing labor. In return, more open borders, etc.MondoMorphic
    • Under which government would that happen, exactly?ben_
    • ^ china + korea have a well educated workforce and highest investment in automation. you cant just reindustrialise a service economy and expect job creationkingsteven
    • these days. and your automating jobs in existing US manufacturing in the process...kingsteven
    • yes, agreed... the west has spent trillions educating, training and arming (so to speak) the east with everything to ensure america will never bring this scaleben_
    • of production back. in the meantime the people that would do these jobs in america are deathboying their stimulus cheques.ben_
    • Unless reindustrializing is more profitable than offshoring it just won't happen. That's capitalism.i_monk
    • ^ unless the robots that take your job are made in chinakingsteven
    • US needs to get back to this style of working https://www.youtube.…PhanLo
    • Damn, we’re those macs made in the USA?Gnash
    • Its too late isnt it? They learned the tech now they're building up on it.Beeswax
    • Capitalism, how do they work?Bennn
    • Those early macs were at the very least assembled domestically. Funny the scale of those sales is tiny compared to today.ben_
    • Essentially what this article is saying is that American style laissez faire capitalism cannot compete with Chinese style socialism or state capitalism.yuekit
    • None of the things the author talks about will be possible unless the USA drops its current mindset and is willing to spend big on R&D, infrastructure etcyuekit
    • If only there was a group of people that had spent 100+ years theorizing methods of peacefully restructuring industry based on existing individualist principleskingsteven
    • American companies won't want to pay the workers a living wage so it will never happen.PhanLo
    • And a rulling class hadnt spent as long synonymising anarchism withwith violence.kingsteven
    • People won't pay $2500 for an iPhone and WallStreet doesn't want an Apple that doesn't have 50%+ margins.formed

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