Sagmeister Walsh
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Deathboy, exactly.
Anyone that owns their own studio or agency knows they have to be their own best salesperson. Especially if your name is on the door.
Their is no humility or being humble. Their is no “letting the work speak for itself” because clients often can’t differentiate.
A client wants a relationship and to trust that they chose the right firm. The V.P. of Sales or the CMO wants to convince the CEO and CFO that they made the right decision hiring &Walsh and to trust them. Partially that trust is built from the logical side (ROI, KPIs, SOQs, responding to RFPs, pricing) but it’s also largely emotional.
Every good salesperson knows that. Many of you don’t, because you’ve never been in that position and haven’t had that responsibility to work at that level.
- i can respect a great used car salesmen. it doesn't mean I buy what they're selling. but don't underestimate people with humility or humbleness non trenddeathboy
- chasers. she can "instagram influencer" fakeness all she wants to pay the mortgage better than others, but at the end of the day it fakedeathboy
- again i don't know who was keeping their lights on since I didn't see much paid work. and i think the hype caught up. curious if lack of funds is the causedeathboy
- for the rebrand. typical when shit declines. what point is leaving when things are successful?deathboy
- terrible derivative brand style but great case study and fluff to clearly drive this interest and concerndeathboy
- All design is fake. We are creating and shaping perceptions. The only requirements in life are to shit and die, the rest is optional.fate
- i do say its weird you agreeing. i disrespect todays "game" full heartedly for said reasons, but you are happy i agree at the success of it.deathboy
- There is no such thing as “fake design” or “real design”, we are all a bunch of con artists. Some of us are just more honest with ourselves.fate
- maybe im old and disregard todays "metrics" and hotness. one thing i know is fundamentals will outlast trendsdeathboy
- If lack of funds is the cause then it would be rather expensive to do such an extensive rebrand and pay rent in NY as well as get all the 20+ employees over.NBQ00
- But yes I don't see really quality clients either with all that hype.NBQ00
- i always ask new clients on brand wether you expect the brand to drive sales or actual performance. some prefer brandingdeathboy
- and i find those clients I dont stick with long time, but those that more communicating their sell points stick with medeathboy
- its just a different set of values and gambling on what sells and resonates.deathboy
- i typed that with no refresh...deathboy
- Dude, quit adding notes and just make a new post like a normal person. 10 notes??fate
- design isnt fake. its arbitrary. eye of beholder. and design i think is more specific to utility than art.deathboy
- i can tell you the design of opera mail vs thunderbird is not fake. for my purposes opera design works. that isnt the same for othersdeathboy
- but fake is not a good word for us english language description. nbq00 never underestimate loansdeathboy
- hell companies have gotten 12 billion without showing profit. just wondering if it was money giving why change it?deathboy
- i like notesdeathboy
- she is a really good used cars saleswomanutopian