Venezuela 2014

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  • yuekit0

    Let's say the opposition was able to take power. What would they do differently in order to fix everything?

    • I mean clearly if you could go back in time 10 years...but at this point the country is massively in debt to foreign creditors. It's like Greece x 1000.yuekit
    • one big difference is Venezuela has an estimated $14.3 trillion worth of natural resources. But somehow they aren't able to exploit this potential wealth.uan
    • for one they'd be rid of a dictatorGnash
    • unfortunately the destruction is so bad it will take decades to recover.hotroddy
    • and most of the business that operated pre-chavez will never return.hotroddy
    • some in the opposition want dolarize the economy. worked well for Ecuador. however it may cause even more suffering in the short termhotroddy
    • gnash is correct, getting rid of a dictator and his group of illiterate criminal thugs is the first step.hotroddy
    • yes, but the price Venezuela will pay for an invasion might not be what the people and the country need.
      They need to get rid of the dictator by themselves.
      uan
    • ^ yup.Gnash
    • Top Military ranks are too corrupt. Mid ranks are too scared bc many have already been jailed. Cubans have infiltrated the ranks and act like spies.hotroddy
    • I know it will surprise - but most in the country are asking for a military invasion. It's the USA and allies who are not willing to pay the price.hotroddy
    • and I understand. Why should we put American lives at risk? Not worth it to most.hotroddy
    • The Monroe Doctrine is Venezuela's only hope.hotroddy
    • How much of the population still favors Maduro? Do you think there is a prospect of civil war if the government was overthrown?yuekit
    • So many times the U.S. has tried to "solve" a situation like this and it turns into an even worse disaster.yuekit
    • ^ absolutely .Gnash
    • Independent polls have pro-regime supporter at 10-15%. But the gov't will tell you it's at 80%.hotroddy
    • the opposition consist of mostly unarmed civilians. The regime have all the guns.hotroddy
    • Not has Maduro armed civilians that are above the law and act with impunity but Maduro has also given refuge you colombian paramilitary groups (ELN, FARC)hotroddy
    • which control large portions of venezuela's interiorhotroddy
    • so their won't be any civil war.. even though Maduro is fully committed in watching the country spiral into a blood bath.hotroddy
    • They are quite content into watching the country sink further as long as they are in control of $$$hotroddy
    • jeez.. excuse all my grammar errorshotroddy
    • I was speculating about a civil war IF the government was toppled...what happens with all those heavily armed paramilitary groups you mentioned.yuekit
    • The gov't planned for this (the only thing they planned) and many think an IRAQ scenario would unfold.hotroddy
    • But I don't think many would risk their lives fighting for a failed 'cuban ideology'. Caribbean culture is not Arab culture or Vietcong culture.hotroddy
    • the paramilitary groups (FARC etc) in the interior will fight. But the 'collectivos' won't risk their lives.hotroddy
    • colectivos are armed mafia gangs that the gov't funds to control the streetshotroddy
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