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A non-woman gets nominated for Women's Prize for Fiction
https://www.theguardian.com/book…
- If we aren't woke enough to not need a Women's Prize for Fiction we are not woke enough to not only nominate women.deadsperm
- zir will obviously refuse to accept the moneyGnash
- < How far does this go? Could the women's 100m at the olympics feature former men?Morning_star
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Yes, this is not the case tho. "They" neither identify as F or M.
I see no problem in a self-identified woman competing in a women's competition.deadsperm - I do.Morning_star
- Futhermore, wouldn't a transwoman winning at the Olympics prove the point that men are superior to women in all aspects? You should be getting behind this.deadsperm
- To elaborate, there are certain male specific physical advantages that would make competing unfair and open to abuse.Morning_star
- I thought you were against equality of outcome.deadsperm
- .."I should be geeing behind this". Why?Morning_star
- If a born male is faster than a born female in a 100m race, shouldn't the born male be getting the medal?deadsperm
- - "I should be geeing behind this". Why?
I thought you were for equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.deadsperm - Could you point out a real world example of your scenario? Because i'm sure the Female athletics community have a fit.Morning_star
- "Could you point out a real world example of your scenario?"
No, I'm just talking how I would hypothetically feel about the situation.deadsperm - To my knowledge there have been no trans people competing in the Olympics.
What are you talking about?deadsperm - You're the one that brought the 100m race into the conversation.deadsperm
- Just to make sure we're on the same page. You are saying that you would have no problem with former man competing in the Olympic 100m Women's final?Morning_star
- She's not a non-woman. And trans ex-men can't just compete in the olympics, dumbass. Look at Semenya - the world is having a fit because she has high...Projectile
- ...testosterone levels. Born a woman, no surgery or supplements etcProjectile
- I'm a dumbass, what do I know?
Congratulations, you've played yourself.deadsperm - @Morning_star
Yes, we're on the same page.deadsperm - Ok. If we take the paralympics as an example, in the interest of fairness the athletes are graded by the severity of and type of disability. This is so...Morning_star
- ...for example, you don't get a blind person competing against a quadriplegic. In the same way, the Olympics are categorised competitively by sex therefore if..Morning_star
- ...you are not part of the appropriate category it would be unfair to include them.Morning_star
- 1. I don't thinking women think of themselves as disabled.
2. We are parting from the premise that identifying as a woman makes you legally a woman.deadsperm - If a self-identified woman is better than born women in a category, doesn't that help prove the point that men are intrinsically better than women ...deadsperm
- ... for those that still believe that self-identfied women are men.
Isn't this a win-win situation?deadsperm - 1. Wasn't suggesting they did.Morning_star
- 2. To compete as a transgender woman in the Olympics you must have female level testosterone. Secondly, just because i say i'm a woman it doesn't make me one.Morning_star
- I guess that settles it then.deadsperm
- You seem to be labouring under the misogynist impression that males should be superior in everything.Morning_star
- I wasn't suggesting that men were better than women in the eyes of God. Only that men were faster, stronger & smarter than women.deadsperm
- In a competition on empathy I'm sure that women would win. We all know that men are built & wired different than women.deadsperm
- We shouldn't apologize for the cards we've been dealt. We didn't choose to be men or women, only trans people do that.deadsperm
- Males and females are identical in terms of intelligence.Morning_star
- From a personality perspective Males and Females are more the same than they are different. However, at the extremes we differ greatly.Morning_star
- perhaps it's time to get rid of all categories and restrictions, not just gender. no more weight class (as in boxing) no drug or tech use restrictions, etc.Gnash
- or go back to the source where everyone is oiled-up and naked.Gnash
- Weight distinction only applies to individual combat sports. Maybe the way of the future is a more peaceful collective society as you suggest.deadsperm
- I don't think people weren't more peaceful back then but they were probably more oiledGnash
- But then, I don't really follow sports.
I totally missed the world protests over Semenya winning in the Olympics.deadsperm - From my limited perspective, the problem is not having different categories for women and retards but expecting the same public interest as sports with men.deadsperm
- But we have gotten really off-topic by now.deadsperm