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- utopian7
- This “we’re saying Merry Christmas” again bullshit is absolutely a ploy to relate to the absolute dumbest of the dumb in America.mg33
- Haha, be's comment is great!formed
- Dumbest of dumb = creationist retardsmonospaced
- and yet each and every one of you hypocritical fucks is giving presents today... or am I wrong? *gigglePonyBoy
- Anyone of you clowns give a gift? If so... you're a bunch of little Baby Jesus believers... ... else you're fucking hypocrites... pick one. ;)PonyBoy
- *awaits 'trump supporter' tag from one of you hypocritesPonyBoy
- Or... according to mg33's logic... you're all "dumbest of the dumb" if you drop a DIME on this holiday.. yes?PonyBoy
- Trumps so Fn delusionalsince1979
- I think the gift giving side of the holidays existed in other cultures outside of Christianity. When the winter was dark and miserable...PhanLo
- ... I reckon gift giving and a drunken family get together were what stopped people killing themselves because it was so grim.PhanLo
- I'm an atheist and I celebarate Christmas. It's possible to do that without making it about Jesus. This is America!monospaced
- There's nothing hypocritical nor religious about celebrating a night with family and having great meals and giving gifts and sharing love.monospaced
- Yet we're talking about POTUS/USA— anything other religion is merely secondary... so let's not kid ourselves w/'other cultures' when nearly 70% are xtianPonyBoy
- and to be clear... I've never celebrated this holiday once in my life... not when I was religious and not now (just to avoid looking like a hypocrite)PonyBoy
- hey—if you need a pathetic holiday meant to drain your wallet as an excuse to spend time w/your family—so be it—but you are a hypocrite if you talk shit...PonyBoy
- ...about 'the dumbest of the dumb's' beliefs but then hop in line at the store to grab that gift for that special someone as a Xmas gift.PonyBoy
- Now if you don't mind I'm going to go get the festivus pole from under the crawl spacePonyBoy
- You've never celebrated Christmas a single time?yuekit
- Saying "Merry Christmas" may be the only words that'll keep the pagan pizza gates closed.omg
- I think there is a such thing as cultural Christianity and Judaism...you might not believe in god or go to church but still celebrate Christmas and Easteryuekit
- because why not.yuekit
- never, yuekit... I've never celebrated a thing... including my birfday (although people wish me a 'happy' one and I respectfully say 'thank you')PonyBoy
- And as far as getting creative w/terminology ('cultural christianity')... I wonder what someone who actually believes in 'God' would 'feel'...PonyBoy
- ... about such a "misappropriation" of their beliefs.
*runs :DPonyBoy - Even when you were 5 years old Pony? Did your folks not celebrate it?
My family were mad into the Jesus, so it was always celebrated.PhanLo - not oncePonyBoy
- I mean the reality is there are millions of people who don't believe and still celebrate these holidays.yuekit
- Also millions of people who don't celebrate them because they believe something else. It would be nice if everyone could just chill the f out about it.yuekit
- Getting offended because someone says happy holiday instead of Merry Christmas is a pretty silly thing to get upset over...same goes for opposite of course ;)yuekit
- Now imagine for a moment if Trump tweeted about the hundreds of thousands of homeless people in the U.S. instead of a stupid culture war issue like this...yuekit
- It wouldn't be silly if someone got really offended when "Happy Holidays" were inferred which just opens up the original meaning for the pagan holidays.omg
- "Satanic Greetings" would be no different than saying "Happy Holidays"?omg
- omg... if you're gonna go that route you best bitch about all the existing pagan icons involved in the holiday (from Tree to Santa)PonyBoy
- The reason I never celebrated the holiday even as a kid was BECAUSE of all that pagan BS that hadn't a thing to do w/Jesus or the Bible for that matter.PonyBoy
- Xmas is one big orgy of pagan / roman / xtian / coca cola BULLSHIT that has nothing to do w/Jesus. So... fuck Trump and any clown who thinks it does. ;)PonyBoy
- Yeah but cmon...culture changes over time. Even the original paganism was probably a bastardization of something else.yuekit
- The good side of Christmas is family and helping people. The bad side is mindless consumerism like you said.yuekit
- Now imagine a parallel universe where Trump tweeted "Haters and losers max out credit cards while ignoring many homeless AMERICANS freezing on the streetsyuekit
- tonight. DONATE!" and then a link to some charities. The reason that's so hard to imagine is because that's not who Trump is...he represents the uglyyuekit
- narcissistic consumerist side of America.yuekit
- It's not hypocritical to celebrate a holiday and still think creationists are fucking stupid as fuck. The two aren't remotely related.monospaced
- And yes I celebrate a holiday that involves buying gifts, for people I love, and sharing love. That part isn't religious. NEVER HAS BEEN.monospaced
- He very idea that religious people have a monopoly of kindness is a crock of shit. Anyway, Christmas is mostly pagan anyway. Lol.monospaced
- "It's not hypocritical to celebrate a holiday and still think creationists are fucking stupid as fuck. The two aren't remotely related."
Yes it is. :)PonyBoy - PonyBoy - what I said was, only the dumbest of the dumb believe anyone took away the ability to say “Merry Christmas.” It’s pandering, ludicrous BS from Trump.mg33
- "And yes I celebrate a holiday that involves buying gifts, for people I love, and sharing love. That part isn't religious. NEVER HAS BEEN." Yes it is. :)PonyBoy
- as usual mono and I will have no common ground... as he can do no wrong and nevvvver participates in anything 'religious' if he deems it to not be religiousPonyBoy
- Nobody took it away, Obama never mandated that we say “Happy Holidays.” Free speech + free f’ing will means there’s no regulation on a seasonal greeting.mg33
- Nobody assaulted saying “Merry Christmas.” Just more foolish, pandering word salad from a dumb-as-hell President.mg33
- you're just making up your own rules so as to not feel like a hypocrite, mono... I get why you or anyone else would do it... the holiday does seem 'fun'. :)PonyBoy
- mono can still hang the Christmas cucumber between his branches of the Christmas Tree. Regardless of his origins.omg
- Heatednotype
- How was your xmas OMG?PhanLo
- Pony, would you not say the whole idea of a virgin birth is just a repetition of pagan myth? Like the 30 or so gods/messengers born of virgins predating christ?PhanLo
- In Northern Europe, the Yuletide tradition is really similar to what we now have as Christmas. Feasting, boozing and getting together as a family. As the...PhanLo
- ...nations that celebrated that way got into the jesus myth, they changed the names to suit the christian story.PhanLo
- Wednesday and Thursday are named after Odin and Thor. Friday after Freya. Just a jumble of old stories layered over time.PhanLo
- Phan—I grew up learning that stuff inside out in order to dull the pain of watching kids get gifts and not me—lol—didn’t work but I’m full of pagan history! :)PonyBoy
- @Pony Where I live, I definitely think it was designed to get folk through the winter. We have Hogmanay next week too.PhanLo
- What branch of christianity were your into that didn't allow you to celebrate xmas? I know Jehovah's Witnesses don't, but they're mental.PhanLo
- nailed it :)PonyBoy
- I knew a Jehovah's Witness that thought I was Satan and engaged in a holy war against me. Ended up burning his parents house down.PhanLo
- Every JW I knew growing up (and still) is actually quite balanced / relaxed in this world... meaning: they're at peace w/themselves which I kinda envy.PonyBoy
- He wasn't balanced, ended up getting sectioned at regular intervals for the rest of his life. I don't just think it was the religion though.PhanLo
- Ponyboy, sorry man if atheist are appropriating Christmas and stripping it entirely of any Christian meaning. It's like you said, just a wallet emptying holidaymonospaced
- Christmas is as much a modern capitalist experience as it is religious. It exists without religion, and enjoyed worldwide by non christians.monospaced
- It's also a celebration of the equinox and change in year. A time to be happy and close with family. It's not hypocritical to celebrate it and leave out religiomonospaced
- And if deep down you simply disagree, or refuse to comprehend this, that's fine. It's happening whether you approve or not, and they're all good people.monospaced
- You are a man of principles. So am I. I respect that about you.monospaced
- Merry Christmas PonyBoy. Hope Santa brought you good presents. Remember to call your loved ones if you can't be with them. Have a jolly good time.monospaced
- Are you still a JW now? If so do you believe we are close to armageddon?
I'd always thought it was a door to door pyramid scheme.PhanLo - long since removed from that faith, phan. mono... I appreciate what you said... there is irony in your final statement though (see blog) :/PonyBoy
- Hadn't seen that. Sorry for your loss.monospaced
- wait, guys, ponyboy has never had a birthday party :(inteliboy
- I did not give gifts to anyone!! Lolpango