Shooting of the Day
Shooting of the Day
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Regarding this latest massacre in Las Vegas, I invite the pro-gun advocates whose defense is usually, "I bet if a civilian with a gun had been there, it would have been different" or "we need guns to defend ourselves", tell me how that helped here. It was a country music festival, so you know there were people carrying. Having grown up a hunter and in the South, I'm well acquainted with guns, but I agree fully with that has been said above, there is absolutely no reason for any non-military, non-law enforcement person to own or be able to carry a fully automatic, military rifle. It's time for Congress to pull itself off of the NRA teat and use some common sense for once in their lives.
- I don't think armed civilians would have have changed the outcome...but at the same time I don't think ppl willing to commit these horrible acts careGM278
- whether or not it's legal to posses these kinds of weapons. The ppl looking to hurt others will get their hands on them one way or another.GM278
- There's a serious mental health care issue that continues to be ignored as ppl fight over pro or anti gun.GM278
- absolutely right. these weapons aren't called assault rifles for nothing. they're designed to attack, not defend.hans_glib
- Being pro-gun doesn't give you some magic shield from every violent attack. Home invasions, carjackings you have some protection but this is just horrific.GM278
- I'm speaking as someone who conceal carries a firearm. (see the open carry thread).GM278
- ISIS again. Terrorist group calls Stephen Paddock 'a soldier of the Islamic State'sureshot
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- The argument that "they would find them anyway, so why bother" drives me crazy ... it's full on giving up. At least TRY to make them harder to get, at least?monospaced
- I mean, ffs, at least start the process. It can't and won't be overnight change, but if we make moves in the right direction it can be altered, over time.monospaced
- And I can agree with the current state of mental health care being a huge problem as well, GM. It also needs to be addressed along-side this.....kirshar12
- Mono, you misunderstand. There was no "so why bother" merely an argument that armed civilians wouldn't have changed the outcome. Getting these types of firearmsGM278
- out of ppl's hands NEEDS to happen. But I still believe that has to happen hand in hand with improving mental healthcare.GM278
- @GM278, apologies, but it seemed like that's precisely what you were saying, so I appreciate that you agree that starting to remove guns is a good start.monospaced
- Far too often I hear that argument, and have read it in this thread several times, and it only sounds more idiotic every time I hear it, year after year.monospaced
- Like I said, I own and carry. Do I own automatic, military grade stuff? HELL NO! I don't believe civilians should be anywhere near them.GM278
- I mean I'm pro-gun but ppl that try to make the argument that they need automatic weapons for home security are bat shit insane.GM278
- Things are that bad in Austin?monospaced
- Austin has it's moments like anywhere else.GM278
- Yeah. It also has a fuck load of gun stores and a gun culture, unlike anywhere else (mostly). :/monospaced
- That is unfortunately very true. I agree it needs to be MUCH harder to purchase a firearm. Not to go completely off topic of kirshar12's initial question.GM278
- Aren't fully automatic weapons illegal?dbloc
- yes, but not all of them, and they're not really difficult or expensive to fashion them from semi-automaticsmonospaced