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  • PonyBoy3

    shellie... you make an immensely valid point... I'm 100% w/you but I feel like you're leaving something out (not on purpose or anything... it's just this conversation has changed in the past couple of years).

    The attitude of "Who cares either way" is great. But the problem is there is a rise from the LGBTQXYZ123 crowd DEMANDING you care... to the point certain communities are actually passing 'resolutions' where we're told we must use the appropriate pronoun 'Person A' demands of us (no laws that I can think of as of yet but lawmakers are getting close: https://news.vice.com/story/jord…).

    Jordan Peterson comes to mind...

    • hehe... is he being interviewed by the Six Flags guy?PonyBoy
    • you cited a potential "law" that would grant the LGBT community equal rights, dudemonospaced
    • Not sure how that's problematic, but I also agree that the pronoun thing gets out of hand, and I'd rather not be bothered.monospaced
    • demanding you use a pronoun is not about equal rights ffsPonyBoy
    • People used to and still do call black people lots of things outside of the name we choose for ourselves. it pisses me all the way off.shellie
    • im not sayin you're an asshole we've had dealings offline BUT you are enjoying a certain level of privilege that impedes your ability to understand.shellie
    • lol... i cited a story about Peterson and bill C-16 which is part of the pronoun conversation... what the fuck are you going on about now, trollospaced?PonyBoy
    • shellie... how am I supposed to tell which pronoun to use if there are over 50 of them? If that makes me an asshole and privileged to ask such a Q... so be it.PonyBoy
    • the Vice article you cited wasn't about pronouns, it was for protection against discrimination based on their identitymonospaced
    • For instance just this year a cop repeadedly addressed my boyfriend as Boy, which we all know is passive aggressive racist bullshit.shellie
    • quite literally the first line said it was about equal rights, that's what I'm on about :)monospaced
    • i don't think anyone is expecting you to read minds but if someone says "call me he or they" calling him a she id's pretty fucked.shellie
    • the story is about C-16 and Peterson... what are you going on about, mono? pronouns are part of this conversation as the article showsPonyBoy
    • that pronoun thing, btw, will never be law, for exactly the reasons you don't like it... it's absolutely ridiculous and impossible to implement, it's unrealistimonospaced
    • I'm sorry, I didn't see the part of the article that said it was about pronouns, except to say that this guy also was fighting that fight. Sorry.monospaced
    • I thought it was about this only: "and recognizes violence or advocating genocide against gender expression and gender identity as a hate crime."monospaced
    • *sigh... so WE AGREE. lol Why do you put me through this shit, mono??PonyBoy
    • i don't think it should have to be law but a level of respect would be amazingshellie
    • A certain level of respect is fine as long as the person with the abnormal pronouns makes it easier to use them and knows the onus is on them to do socannonball1978
    • Also... Re: the rhetorical bludgeon of the checking of privilege. You aren't qualified to determine anyone's privilege other than your own.cannonball1978
    • Hey man! Shit, I screwed this up already.Ianbolton
    • big fat LOL at the racism that entered the conversation here...imbecile

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