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  • omg-13

    • they shouldn't 'have' to assimilate. people can simply respect each other. We have more of a mosaic of cultures and neighbourhoods here and it's fine.Gnash
    • "Raheem Jamaludin Kassam is an ex-Muslim British political activist and editor-in-chief of Breitbart News London"
      lol, fuck off omg.
      dorf
    • You know nothing about Sadiq Khan apart from what you have read on your shitty right websites.fadein11
    • ISIS want Conservatives in power because it means more war and more division in the UK. These attacks increase their chance of winning. Similar things wouldfadein11
    • have happened prior to election in US if Russia hadn't done the job for them.fadein11
    • Here is a non sensational news source reporting the exact same speech:yuekit
    • http://www.standard.…yuekit
    • Good luck finding anything remotely controversial or objectionable in there.yuekit
    • I doubt omg has even stepped foot in the UKinteliboy
    • Power sharing between a mosaic of cultures peacefully coexisting is a dangerous myth that is completely antithetical to human nature.IRNlun6
    • The dominant culture will always rule.IRNlun6
    • To compound the problem, western nations are doing their best to dismantle their own culture and existing power structures.IRNlun6
    • Almost all of the world's largest and most successful cities are a blend of different cultures and have been for some time, so how is that a myth?yuekit
    • Because they live under one nation, one flag, one dominant culture.IRNlun6
    • And unless that dominant culture shares the value of coexistence then there will be no peaceful coexistence.IRNlun6
    • The myth is in assuming that all cultures want to peacefully coexist.IRNlun6
    • Sounds like you're taking a specific issue (radicalization among some Muslims, not all of which are even immigrants) and massively overgeneralizing.yuekit
    • Nope, not just Muslims. You see cultures in ever city tend to congregate with their own groups. And yes it is a generalization when talking about the masses.IRNlun6
    • OK but so what? My city has a Chinatown, are you saying that's a problem somehow?yuekit
    • Perfectly natural for immigrants who just arrived to congregate with other immigrants. Over time they or their kids will most likely feel more attachment to theyuekit
    • place they immigrated to.yuekit
    • I'm not denying that. I'm critical of the generalization that if you mix a bunch of cultures together that people will just naturally coexist.IRNlun6
    • It's a great ideal to live up too but it's not a peaceful transition.IRNlun6
    • I don't think anyone made such an absolutist statement. Of course sometimes there are problems but it completely depends on the circumstance.yuekit
    • I agree on circumstances. In the recent context of mass migration though many are making such absolutist statements.IRNlun6
    • Often it's exaggerated or taken out of context to fear monger or play into a narrative. If you read the article I posted above you'll see that Sadiq Khan didn'tyuekit
    • say anything unreasonable and in fact is trying to bring about more integration between communities. Breitbart then twists one sentence he said to make it lookyuekit
    • like he's some kind of extremist. And I see that Trump just send out a statement criticizing him after the attack, based on something he didn't actually say.yuekit
    • When was the last time you heard the President attack the mayor of a city that had just been attacked by terrorists? It's disgusting, and hard to escape theyuekit
    • conclusion that Trump and his supporters don't like the guy simply because he is Muslim.yuekit
    • I wasn't so much speaking of this article. I find people are more frustrated with his comments on terrorism just being a part of living in a big city.IRNlun6
    • ... and how he accuses people of Islamophobia. People are very justified in being fearful of Islam.IRNlun6
    • He's a big proponent of mass migration and open borders. I find that naive and dangerous.IRNlun6
    • The masses just see problem and react.IRNlun6
    • To Trumps defense, Khan has not been shy of being very critical of Trump.IRNlun6
    • You mean this quote?
      "Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to
      yuekit
    • support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life oryuekit
    • destroy the way we lead our lives."yuekit
    • Again entirely reasonable, he simply said you've got to be prepared and vigilant. And that terrorism should NOT be allowed to destroy their way of life.yuekit
    • So again Trump and his followers lied and it seems they particularly get off on attacking this guy, over statements that no one would pay attention to if someyuekit
    • other politician said them. I wonder why?yuekit
    • I don't disagree but I find it's more a reaction to violent events than a conscious effort to misinterpret.IRNlun6

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