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  • dorf5

    related to nb's post earlier.

    • precisely what I've been sayingmonospaced
    • then instead of whining and throwing hissy fits, how about just not go to the lecture. allow those who want to listen, goGnash
    • < this backwards thinking only works if you hold the views of the majority.Gnash
    • more importantly, freedom of speech protects the views of the minorityGnash
    • Freedom of speech does not originate with constitution. Its a universal ideal that was included in the constitution because the they realized that the gov't ...Gnash
    • ... had the power to suppress minority viewsGnash
    • to ban, silence, yell or throw hissy fits, admits that you cannot address their words with words of your ownGnash
    • < this is a silly, naive memeGnash
    • no it isn'tmonospaced
    • free speech isn't a law. it's a value. simpletons like this meme because it justifies their collective behaviour.Gnash
    • it soothes the cognitive dissonance that caused by their own intoleranceGnash
    • no it doesn'tmonospaced
    • it makes you feel better about yourselfGnash
    • freedom of speech certainly IS protected by the law, and people died for that right ... it's far more than a universal value, and it's NOT remotely universalmonospaced
    • when someone goes to prison because of what they say, then we can talk about infringement of speech ... until then, you are quite literally the whinermonospaced
    • < simpletons wear this kind of naive mewling like it's a badge of honour. when all it does is reveal their lack of critical thinkingGnash
    • I'm not a simpleton, nor do I lack critical thinking skills. Nice try.monospaced
    • which you're doing now brilliantlyGnash
    • yet, you're the one who's failed miserably to grasp what the 1st amendment protects, or how it applies to the current situation that you are whining aboutmonospaced
    • and you're the one resorting to name-calling, leading me to assume that perhaps you're the simpleton who's lost any credible argumentmonospaced
    • And I'll just assume any future insults you send my way are coming from that place.monospaced
    • observation isn't name-calling. you've missed not only the subtext of what I'm saying, but the stuff floating on top.Gnash
    • again, which points to why this simple meme is so appealing to manyGnash
    • ( love the, I'm rubber, you're glue... retort )Gnash
    • I get what you're saying, trust me, I do ... it's just that even then there is no infringement of free speech when it comes to campuses and alt-right speechmonospaced
    • but this isn't just a meme, it's an accurate description of the amendment, and it's not a distortion to make people feel bettermonospaced
    • you seem to be under the impression that there is a free speech infringement issue going on, and I simply disagree with you... and then you say it isn't law :/monospaced
    • Of course I know it's a law. I meant that -- more importantly -- it's a value, and therefore talk of it's application 'strictly' as a law is a naive one.Gnash
    • It has to be strictly legal in order to allow people to protest. Forcing views on people is also frowned upon.monospaced
    • they're not just protesting, mono. don't be so naive. they're trying to stop the talking from happening. they're trying to prevent the words from being heard.Gnash
    • no one is saying speech should not be criticized -- in fact that is the whole mechanism by which free speech reaches truths.Gnash
    • yeah, I agree, it's totally stupid and I do not condone it ... but it's also not infringement of rights, and it is being addressed ... nobody losing their jobs,monospaced
    • free speech enables criticism -- that's why censors hate it so muchGnash
    • these whiners and mewls want the consequences of freespeecr to be greater than criticism...Gnash
    • ... they want people to lose their jobs, be boycotted, banned from speakingGnash
    • thank goodness that won't happen, because of the strict legal protections of the 1st Amendment ;)monospaced
    • I'm perfectly capable of deciding what I can and cannot listen too. I don't need someone deciding that for me, especially a government.IRNlun6
    • Or an organization. Service with a lecture, no thanks.IRNlun6
    • a government isn't telling you, and clearly you avoid higher education, so you're in the clearmonospaced

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