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    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/28/us…
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    Fareed Zakaria: Liberals think they're tolerant, but they're not

    Fareed Zakaria said Saturday that though many liberals think they are tolerant, often they aren't.

    Zakaria noted that "at the height of commencement season," many new graduates across the country had made their political views apparent, from the Notre Dame students who walked out as Vice President Mike Pence gave his commencement address to the crowd members who booed Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos during a speech at Bethune-Cookman University.
    "American universities seem committed to every kind of diversity except intellectual diversity. Conservative voices and views are being silenced entirely," Zakaria said.

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    • The right is expert in double standards. They claim the left has to meet standards they don't. Also if a moronic university rejects any scientific evidence...sr_rosa
    • ...because of religion, that's freedom. But if a university let someone speak and the students decide to express their opinion, that's anti-freedom. Genius.sr_rosa
    • True, some on the left are silly, Citizen Smith tumblr cunts but there's a difference between calling out shitheads for their abject fuckery and 'intolerance'face_melter
    • (as a note on the article, not sr_rosa's text)face_melter
    • Universities banning speakers because of their views worry me. We need extreme views aired, debated and scrutinised with rational thought and reason.monoboy
    • We need to get people out their bubbles, no matter how distasteful to most. Dangerous confirmation biases are being cultivated by the internet and social media.monoboy
    • Friends of mine have become quote anti-liberal thanks to keyboard 'alt-right' crusaders pushing lies online, often anonymously and just for adclicks.monoboy
    • Walking out of a commencement speech isn't intolerance nor a problem. Holy fuck.monospaced
    • And universities haven't banned speakers because of their views either. Not sure where anyone got that nonsense idea.monospaced
    • The REAL intolerance is the right imposing laws to allow discrimination in businesses and public schools.monospaced
    • ya, universities are tolerant.
      http://heterodoxacad…      Gnash
    • Are you kidding mono? What part of free speech Is conditional?Morning_star
    • conditional?monospaced
    • a group of students does not mke the entirety of the left. the left is actually extremely tolerant in the big picture and everyone knows thatmonospaced
    • using a group of students who refuse to listen to an asshole who they hate give a speech is just choice, not intolerance.monospaced
    • https://www.youtube.…Gnash
    • It's a passive aggressive defense. But it is true, not many liberals are tolerant of bigots and religions taking away people's rights.formed
    • The folk in Gnash's link are fucking clowns and an embarrassment, exactly the type of tumblr spastics who give everyone else a bad name.face_melter
    • http://www.telegraph…monoboy
    • You can exercise you're right to protest, but when Universities ban folk outright it shuts down debate. It's counter productive.monoboy
    • And that includes white supremacists, far right pricks, anti-semites and homophobes. Get them out in the open and challenge their views. None of it holds up.monoboy
    • Hate is not an idea. Having someone debate to defend his/her/them right to exist and be treated as a human being is not a debate, it's harassment.sr_rosa
    • https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
    • That doesn't mean that you have to invite everyone that has a stupid idea, and treat him/her/them as an intellectual.sr_rosa
    • That concept of treating every idea like they were equally legit is stupid. Must students of economics listen a speech of how positivity attracts money?sr_rosa
    • who defines stupid -- the student union?Gnash
    • there's a long list of 'intellectuals' that have been no-platformed by universities kowtowing to the inane braying of the SUsGnash
    • lol are people really upset that higher educational institutions won't allow hate speech and bigotry? you've gotta be kiddingmonospaced
    • right now, it's the SUs that are deciding what is 'stupid.' Morons leading more morons, to a moronic moronacracy .Gnash
    • count yourself amongst the morons, mono, if you really think people are only upset about not being allowed to racist.Gnash
    • I don't think you can call yourself a liberal if you won't defend the right of free speech, no matter how abhorrent you find their views.monoboy
    • Public acknowledging of certain views exist isn't an endorsement. Bringing them down with facts and reason is the real act of defiance imo.monoboy
    • *acknowledgement*monoboy
    • Even the alt-right zealots the hid behind free speech drew the line on that tedious Milo twat after his pedo comments. They like what he said until then.monoboy
    • I'm not a moron, and I always defend free speech. There is no free speech infringement here, and if you don't see that, you're the morons.monospaced
    • A university speaking engagement like a commencement, whatever, is an honor. Assholes are free to speak their mind anywhere they want, btw, without persecution.monospaced
    • that's the definition of free speech, btw ... nobody is being silenced by laws or the government, no punishments for having a different point of viewmonospaced
    • ... being denied a speaking engagement because a school thinks your point of view is despicable is THEIR RIGHT, not an infringement ... get it?monospaced
    • Now, we're only talking about students here, not an institution, that simply refused to listen to someone they don't like. Also not intolerance or infringement.monospaced
    • You're missing a distinct point. These people were/are invited to attend by students/unis, only to be denied because of a backlash from other students.monoboy
    • It sucks that students boo and shout over a speaker entirely, but walking out of a room during a speech is not the same as booing over top, nor is it censorshipnb
    • And can everyone stop calling each other morons because of a difference of opinion.monoboy
    • asshole™ is perfectly acceptable.monoboy
    • ya, peeps like germaine greer, richard dawkins... are despicable. The list is endless. Your head is so far up your assGnash
    • no one is fucking talking about Golden Dawn giving a lecture, here. jesus.Gnash
    • is this what you see everyday on your way to work?
      http://rarehistorica…      Gnash
    • ffs, not everything you don't like is fucking racist and fascist.Gnash
    • lol, walking out isn't infringement, it isn't silencing or censorship, it's ALSO freedom of expression, and the freedom to not listen to dumbfuck assholes speakmonospaced
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