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    I wonder how much this new cosy relationship between Russia and the US has to do with weapons, and more specifically a weapons for oil program.
    It would benefit US arms manufacturers greatly to be able to sell to the Russians who are involved in a couple of wars at the moment.
    Just not 100% sure of if Russia uses American made arms or if they only use their own.

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    • If so, why talk to the yet-to-be-appointed AG?monospaced
    • Weapons manufacturing accounts for 20% of all Russian manufacturing, this line of thought is not logical.BuddhaHat
    • They called it an arms race for a reason!BuddhaHat
    • yeah but maybe It's too costly for the russians to manufacture their own these days, maybe it's easier to buy cheaper and more reliable weapons from the US_niko
    • or at least parts and components. Russia takes Syrian oil, gives it to the US in exchange for arms, Russia gets to throw it's weight around on the world stage_niko
    • 20% of their GDP is weapons - how could it be cheaper to buy American when you make your own at that scale?fadein11
    • eliminating ISIS which is an enemy of America at the same time._niko
    • I think the sanctions would be the main motivation. Lots of people stand to lose big money on either side.yuekit
    • otherwise what's the benefit of these ties? Just to help Trump get elected? then what?_niko
    • Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but sometimes things that we least expect are going on behind the scenes._niko
    • I think it'd be the opposite - another arms race, gives both reasons to spend on military and brag. They just sold some of their new aircraft, too, so they expformed
    • destabalisation, division etc. would be the reasons if any.fadein11
    • The benefit, lift sanctions against Russia which are like a time bomb for their economy. Trump has even talked about it.yuekit
    • "maybe It's too costly for the russians to manufacture their own these days, maybe it's easier to buy cheaper and more reliable weapons from the US" — No.detritus
    • from wilki- Problems in the russian arms industry include a high level of debt, inflation and lack of qualified personnel._niko
    • estimated 70,000 scientists and specialists from Russian defence institutes and military-industrial complex enterprises had left the country._niko
    • And yet they're the second biggest arms exporters with a large through-line to China and India and a decent balance of cost vs. capability, unlike costly US tecdetritus
    • yeah, not basing it on anything, and it doesn't make sense, just a feeling I get that something's amidst. Like Apple using Samsung parts even thought they're_niko
    • ...bitter rivals. Car manufacturers do it all the time as well. Don't think it's a stretch when it comes to arm dealers and the whole industry of death._niko
    • and not talking about anything major like planes and tanks, just components or ammo._niko
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