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- severian4
A waste of money? Trump's border wall falling flat in Arizona: Reuters/Ipsos poll
The results show that while the New York businessman may have expected his tough stance on immigration to fire up support nationally, it seems to be falling short in a state heavily affected by illegal immigration, and where he is now facing a surprising challenge from his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.
Asked if a wall would be “an effective barrier or a waste of money,” 47 percent of Arizona residents picked “waste of money” and 34 percent picked “effective barrier”, with the rest picking neither, according to the poll. Among Republicans, 21 percent picked "waste of money” and 57 percent picked “effective barrier."
Most Arizonans also believed it is not realistic to expect Mexico to pay for the wall, something Trump has vowed would happen if he’s elected president on Nov. 8, according to the poll.
The results lined up closely with nationwide opinions of Trump’s immigration policy: 49 percent of American adults say the wall would be a “waste of money” and 31 percent say it would be an “effective barrier.”
Arizona’s border with Mexico is 370 miles long, covering an isolated desert terrain that has drawn millions seeking to cross illegally. The state's number of undocumented immigrants has fallen 35 percent from a 2007 peak to 325,000, according to the Pew Research Center, as Arizona cracked down on that population. Nationwide, the number has dropped 9 percent from a high in 2007 to 11.1 million undocumented immigrants.
- Reuters is part of Clinton's evil media circle.omg
- And RT is the very paragon of impartiality and truth, yeah? Sort yourself out, mate.face_melter
- According to this combining Dems and Repubs, 91% says a wall will be an "effective barrier" in Arizona.omg
- Thanks for your Stockholm vote.omg
- No. only 47% say that. Are you that stupid that you don't know how percentages work? Trump must LOVE you.monospaced
- "Effective barrier" dems 34% + republican 57% = 91% combinedomg
- Dumbass. It ends up averaging to 47%. You don't add them like that. Sounds like you took trump level math. Stop now because you're making an idiot of yourself.monospaced
- You would have to have 91% of dems AND 91% of repubs to get 91% of all people. Fact is there are far less than 50% in each. It's pathetic.monospaced
- LOL. Maybe that is the kind of math trump is being told to fabricate the idea he's actually got support. Would explain a lot.monospaced
- It's still an overwhelming response
34% thinks it's a waste of money
46% agrees that it would be an effective border.omg - no, backward again: only 34% think it would be effective, and 47% think it would be a waste of moneymonospaced
- and as we all know, 34% is only overwhelming in one aspect: pathetically lowmonospaced
- ownedinteliboy
- You're probably right. I was in a car trying to read and type this. I'll admit if you're right.omg
- what's scary is that you felt so strongly that you were right, that it was even possible that something that stupid could be so popular and actually argue thatmonospaced
- haha- honestly at the same time you're talking about frivolous numbers that sites opinion. The idea that a wall would work is still valid.omg
- also I wasn't feeling anything. Everything was a discussion of cited numbers to support an idea. There many other ways to support ideas for those who need it.omg
- There was a discussion of numbers, but your PURE feelings made you assume they were in favor of a wall. You didn't cite them or interpret them right at all.monospaced
- And no. There's no real evidence that a wall would solve any major issues, or that Mexico could or would pay for such a fucking stupid thing.monospaced