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    How the first liberal Supreme Court in a generation could reshape America

    Odds are that very soon, the Supreme Court will become something it hasn’t been in nearly 50 years: made up of a majority of Democratic-appointed justices.

    A liberal Court could end long-term solitary confinement. It could mandate better prison conditions in general, making it more costly to maintain mass incarceration. It could conceivably end the death penalty. It could uphold tough state campaign finance rules and start to move away from Citizens United. It could start to develop a robust right to vote and limit gerrymandering. It could strengthen abortion rights, moving toward viewing abortion rights as a matter of equal protection for women.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/8/22/124…

    • it could move away from individual rights to group rights, or gov granted rightsdeathboy
    • lots of could be bad with could be positivesdeathboy
    • I don't think it's quite that simple. Most of those things listed would fall under individual.yuekit
    • the idea healthcare is a right and people believe that is scary. just looking at the whole picture and not positives. optimists are whoresdeathboy
    • the idea healthcare is a right and people believe that is scary. just looking at the whole picture and not positives. optimists are whoresdeathboy
    • be nice if drug law incarations were less. nothing wrong with death penalty unless u are wrongly convicted, and in that case prison for life is more inhumane.deathboy
    • women mostly and some father have right to decide child. campaign finance needs no reform except transparency. sanders proved little amongst many works fine.deathboy
    • i know we may disagree but liberals tend to do more things against reason than simpletons, simply because they are more educated in logical falicies. why theydeathboy
    • scare me more than a simpleton. look at the things the author of the article thinks are fundamental rights. most of the stuff should be no involvementdeathboy
    • from my perspective the court still made a huge error on obamacare ruling an inactivity as a tax. they covered there base saying it was popular fault and coulddeathboy
    • be repealed but still a bit frightening when law bends to popular majority. and all the negative reasons why it shouldnt have happed are being seendeathboy
    • but will be a sketchy time with court justices. here i will be a whore and hope with optimism but have skepticism and not ignore the whole picturedeathboy
    • What could be a more fundamental individual right than the state not having the power to execute you?yuekit
    • well i think its based on the philosophy if you violate someones rights you lose yours. if someone killed someone dear to you were do their right begin and end?deathboy
    • of course such guilt needs a court system and such systems are not omnipotent... why there is appeals and hopefully rational jurys...deathboy
    • why im not opposed to death penalties. what is the point of subsidizing the life of a killer? who does that benefit? vengence of victim? adaptation is a traitdeathboy
    • If you are only worried about the cost, it actually costs more to execute someone than to imprison them for life.yuekit
    • of humans. and i think you easily can see life in prison for injustices doesnt quite effect the guilty as we would like. so vengence should be burieddeathboy
    • ? wait imprisonment for life or execution? seems blatantly unreasonable but how do u mean?deathboy
    • Eye for an eye mentality is from another era. Other civilized countries did away with death penalty a long time ago.yuekit
    • If you want to take that argument to its extreme, look at how Saudi Arabia does it. Cutting hands off thieves and chopping off heads.yuekit
    • There was a criminal in Saudi Arabia who got in a fight and paralyzed the other person, the state surgically paralyzed him as revenge.yuekit
    • calling those countries civilized is a fallacy. they want long term vengence, vs practicality and costs. the only real victim in this case is one falsley convicdeathboy
    • It's barbaric and should be done away as basic principle, then you can deal with the issue of life imprisonment being inhumane.yuekit
    • I know I'm in minority on this though, even most liberals support death penalty in U.S. Because it's easy to come up with an example of someone who didyuekit
    • something horrible and make an emotional argument over it.yuekit
    • i think the decision should be with the court, but more so with the individual wronged. no cruel and unusal punishment, but let the victim decide death or vengedeathboy
    • nce. they are the only ones effected. my feelings dont come into play. id argue life collectively hurts everyone, but its a social cost ill pay if they choose.deathboy
    • i think the philosophy of womens right to abort is similiar if not same to the rights of a violater. unborn have nor rights, assaulters have nonedeathboy
    • you'd need an objective reference, what dictates area for abortion like a jury for guilt, and after that its the victims decision, or the person with most concedeathboy
    • i think my philosophy is sound but there is no help for wrongly confused, just a faith that jurys are capable... which im not confident in...deathboy
    • Not only that but some people will have better chance of avoiding death penalty or prison simply because they can afford millions in legal fees.yuekit
    • "Almost all defendants who face capital charges cannot afford an attorney"
      http://deathpenalty.…
      yuekit
    • 'the idea healthcare is a right and people believe that is scary.' <- This, hands-down, is the single most shocking and terrifying statement I've ever read.Continuity
    • liberal supreme court = more black people with better food.yurimon
    • ^in prison. remember who signed . https://theintercept…yurimon
    • continuity, even though someone says you have right to healthcare doesnt mean its true in policy. how about you sit in this prison cell because you are free.yurimon
    • i would advise some of you to reread the constitution and the federalist papers.yurimon
    • the yurinator is back, and he's got a bone to pick with you!monospaced
    • thanks continuity for proving my fear. yea makes u wonder about wealth and crime statistics, and question the whole justice system if money gives u such an edgedeathboy
    • im sure anyone gone through a messy divorce would contest to how fucked the justice system is and a scam to line the pockets of attorneysdeathboy
    • its like come on gov you had but two jobs. and be an arbitrater and defend free people and you are sucking at those. no more jobs for you until u do better.deathboy
    • Third job is executions, though, right???nb
    • Also, are you seriously judging the justice system on your experience with divorce court? Really, divorce court? Good grief.nb
    • divorce court is an analogy. third job executions yes would fall under defense and arbitration. never a married, and think marriage is an outdated conceptdeathboy
    • from a time when women were thought of as property and to claim rights too. but give the analogy some thought. what did I mean by it?deathboy

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