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  • Beeswax-6

    I recently posted this

    "I don't like the kind of American-ism where you think Middle East is a shithole because of backwards, ultra-religious people...
    I like the kind of American-ism where you're intelligent enough to put your finger firmly on who created this shithole, ie. the government of the USA.
    Democrat or Republican, stop blaming each other and blame yourselves.

    This is the USA's state policy. No matter who rules.
    Bomb, Kill, Invade, Deteriorate, Divide, Terrify, Terrorize, Blame, Enslave.
    USA is modern times' Roman Empire."

    Half of the responses are about the other countries did centuries ago.

    Are we living at those times?

    Why does it matter if a Brit or Turk or German or Russian or whatever, apologize for what had happened?

    So I go ahead and apologize for Armenian massacre right now. Like it was me who committed and not a monarch that my country toppled over.
    Look I just did. Did it relieve anything? Does it guarantee that such thing will never happen in this land again?
    What a puny, miserable action this is, being apologetic for what has already been done.

    I USED PRESENT TENSE ON WHAT I'VE WRITTEN.

    Because we need certain action on current issues.

    Moral masturbations like "that Bush what a liar he is, he did some bad stuff in Iraq" does not mean anything.
    If you voted for him in his second term "You are responsible". That's what I want certain people to realize.
    Like my mother-in-law, who is the nicest person I’ve met in my life but unfortunately a Republican who voted for Bush after 9/11 and then McCain. She can’t even watch movies with any blood in them because she’s such a fragile lady, and she’ll probably faint if I tell her what I’ve written here but she’s massively brainwashed and doesn’t assume any responsibility for what’s going on on the other side of the world. And she’s worried about me and my wife whenever there’s some ISIS attack here in Turkey. Thanks mother!

    Furthermore, OBAMA fooled all of you by using slogans like "CHANGE" in his campaign and honestly I fell into it too. The same guy started a war in Syria. Can you deny that? Yet you voted him for the second time. Did you protested him like you did when BUSH invaded IRAQ? No.
    https://www.quora.com/Do-you-thi…

    And the outcome of Syria in terms of destruction is has caught IRAQ.
    You just don't think it is as big because no US soldiers are involved. The shit is still here.

    Anyways this was a call for every person regardless of their country. Including myself.

    I don’t use my computer without a VPN here and I always have a back-up plan just in case one day some civilian looking guys knock on my door for what I've been promoting on social media about Erdogan and AKP and other politic or religious figures in this country.
    But that is a risk I am willing to take because if I don't, I'm worthless as a human.

    I just want you some ”westerner" pals to assume a little responsibility too for what's going on.
    Look at this politics thread. Trump is trolling you so good that you're not considering what's coming up with Hillary.
    We will all be here when that comes. And I will recall this post then.

    Let me tell you what will come to kill your curiosity, it will be the another episode of US Foreign policy decisions as in Bush and Obama era.
    What else you expect? If Obama caused this https://www.theguardian.com/worl… ...

    You had a third option this time and you wasted it.
    So please assume responsibility for your country’s actions since we live in democracies and act accordingly.

    “USA is modern times' Roman Empire”

    PS: Contributing countries of Sykes-Picot planted the first malevolent seed in this area that is for sure. But they passed the baton to the US a while ago.

    • and let's not consider this fact only for middle-east, i'm sincerely feeling for south americans and south east asians who have taken their share of thisBeeswax
    • corporate beast.Beeswax
    • http://www.theglobea…Beeswax
    • "honestly I fell into it too"
      Well... then based on YOUR logic you're at fault too.
      PonyBoy
    • Do you really think Obama started the war in Syria?nb
    • The war created by the two-party system has been going on for a while now. Same body, different head.omg
    • So how did Obama start the war?nb
    • It's beyond start and stop, but rather a new form of recycling war.omg
    • In other words, he didn't start the war. Gotcha.nb
    • I heard turkey is progressive this time of year.yurimon
    • ...Obama didn't stop it either. You would expect a president to stop a rape if he walked into the middle of one.omg
    • go join isis sounds like you are ready. is that the third option???deathboy
    • or is there some othr leader u support?deathboy
    • What idiotic questions.monospaced
    • there are no stupid questions mono.
      duh!
      yurimon
    • is that what they told you at your orientation?monospaced
    • just common wisdom. maybe thats the problem. you dont ask enough questions me amigoyurimon
    • yuri is back, everyone! brace yourselvesmonospaced
    • yUrine, stop eating the play-dohRamanisky2
    • US hasn't caused the fighting, mostly just chosen sides which further self interests. the tribalism there goes way back before the US. As far back whendeathboy
    • the Jews were doing the genocide work. Anyways the only westerners to blame are the ones doing direct policies. Cant hold u responsible for every turkish policydeathboy
    • i think there is something scary with blaming like that. Its very terrorist thinking. Im sure every bomber believes the the people aren't innocent they kill.deathboy
    • maybe a rough day. that wedding stuff is terrible. the retaliation killing of kurds terrible. its all pretty sickening. hope america never gets that divideddeathboy

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