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Another survivor from the Eagles of Death Metal show responds to Jesse Hughes' unsubstantiated claims about that night.
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What pains me most is that you do not even realize that a huge number of us who managed to get out alive of this horrible ordeal owe our lives to a Muslim guy. His name is Didi and he opened the left front door most of us got out of. This guy did something that neither you, me, or anyone else I ever met would ever have done.
You know what he did, this Arab guy, this Muslim? He opened the left front door, let a shitload of people out, and then, while he was safe and sound in the street outside, HE WENT BACK IN. He turned back, and headed back in to save more people. He opened the upstairs exit and let a number of people out through there. That guy, as I said, was nothing like you. Or me.
He was a fucking hero. An unarmed, red-blooded, real-life fucking hero that you just insulted with your racist, hateful comments. You, who are not a hero. You who are, just like me, just a regular guy who happened to be caught in an awful situation and did whatever he could to get out of it and try to help some people around him. So no, your comments are not OK. How is insulting heroes OK?
- great! one muslim guy doing good sure does outnumber all the asshole ones that night...right? ffs... Jesse saw what he saw just like this guy saw what he sawPonyBoy
- just cuz this guy accounts a good man helping doesn't mean JH didn't see a bunch of shitheads being assholes earlier... this doesn't take down Jesse at allPonyBoy
- It's amazing how quickly folks want to destroy Jesse cuz he recounted what he personally saw... like he's some uber racist ahole all the suddenPonyBoy
- what about the people who didnt make it? who do they owe their lives being lost to? its ok guise, one hero justifies the entire national policy. of courseyurimon
- Hughes did a lot more than "recounted what he personally saw". He's making all kinds of wild assumptions that he can't back up.nb
- oh c'mon...dude noticed something funky with his security and spoke up and then proceeded to bring it up later as it was 'obvious' to him...PonyBoy
- ... that the six missing security guards were involved. He had no proof of that... but how does that make him a racist?PonyBoy
- Because he saw "muslims celebrating in the streets"? He's not the only one to report that.PonyBoy
- Calling people 'racist' should be an olympic event.PonyBoy
- If you're Muslim... That is not your race... Or perhaps all Christians are white and your race is defined by your faith and faith-driven actions?PonyBoy
- *isn't definedPonyBoy
- I'm just sick of that word being tossed around like candy. 'Racist'... calling people that in the States has replaced baseball as the USA's pastime.PonyBoy
- (although baseball was already replaced by football... just an //important sidenote to this conv: http://national.sunt…PonyBoy
- Pony...don't be a dumb fuck. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp.BusterBoy
- Sorry... I don't grasp how he's a racist... at all. If he's a racist for not liking islam (which is quite obvious) then every lefty christian trash-talker is...PonyBoy
- ... also a racist... right?
If you rip on religion in the religion thread you are a racist.PonyBoy - see the generalization for the tree not the forest. stand back and take a wider perspective of the remarks.deathboy
- the authors view is equally valid as the eagles guy. its just personal opinion. and clearly they are commenting on different perspectivesdeathboy
- the author seeing muslim as a single spokesperson, the eagles guy as a larger generalization. Problem is the two dialogues dont go togetherdeathboy
- and larger problem is that shit needs to be explained. u think peopel would understand that but they have been so traiend to believe what the person at the frondeathboy
- t of the class tells them to believe. Look at all culture and media and u will see msot peoples politics are more fashion than reason,deathboy
- and the problem largely relies in our teaching and ed in how we accept answers from a teacher and learn and thinkdeathboy
- why poor "uneducated white trash" have more common sense than college folk. they clearly havent been told how to reason incorrectlydeathboy
- Shut the fuck up, you pandering dumb cunt. Muslims caused the massive amount of deaths. Look at your desperation.drake-von-drake
- Fucking retards. Bush and Obama have killed millions of innocent people in the middle east. Is that Christianity's fault?set
- You thick half witted sub-human cuntset
- Deathboy gets my +1pango
- yeah deathboy dropped the logic.yurimon
- deathboy: "the authors view is equally valid as the eagles guy. its just personal opinion." That is exactly what I stated in my first 2 notes...PonyBoy
- ..my point and what I think some of u twats are missing is that DOES NOT MAKE JH A RACIST. Racism Racism!!! he's white!! he's a racist—srsly tired of that shit.PonyBoy
- If you aren't a fan of Islam as JH obviously is not...that makes you a racist? Cuz (I'll say it again)just about everyone posting in the religion thread is a...PonyBoy
- ... is a racist. The trash-talking beatdown that christianity takes by pop-culture in the West is on-going hate wagon that folks have been riding long...PonyBoy
- ... before any of us were even born.PonyBoy
- but it's cool to put a statue of jesus in the NY Met submerged in piss and call it art... cuz then it's 'art' and not racism or hate. The west has it's own...PonyBoy
- ... set of rules when it comes to hate and labels—especially on the left side of things. You can dismiss JH as a racist w/out even blinking & feel good about itPonyBoy
- btw...you're not 'twats' :) sorry... well... set is... but that's more of a term of endearment when referring to set. <3PonyBoy
- lol, well said.set