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- lowimpakt-1
@ponypony I get you now. I want to give a slightly longer reply.
"my point from the start is the chart shows numbers and places but leaves out the reason for the terror, the past being mainly political, today: religious" ponypony
in my view it is difficult if not impossible to separate the political from the religious but I think the majority of the problem is political. It usually boils down to a desire to control, a fear of being controlled, access to resources/wealth, identity and myth.
These things always get mixed up. For example, one of the narratives around the terrorism in Northern Ireland was that it was the the catholics were fighting the protestants. Many people around the world assumed that it was a religious thing.
Religion was one thing that differentiated the groups fighting but the beef was entirely political. For example, catholics were effectively second class citizens i.e. couldn't take jobs at a senior level in the public sector, the police force refused to recruit catholics etc etc. And the terror groups on the other side wanted to maintain the control/status-quo and defend their communities.
Some things to consider about the current situation.
1. The latest cohort of fuckfaces are calling themselves "Islamic State" which in my view is telling.
2. Many muslims are disgusted by these fuckfaces and are no way represented by them. There are many Muslim countries that have little or no conflict.
3. The fact that the Islamist terrorist are acting globally is more a symptom of the fact that there is an international presence in the countries they are trying to get control of (not so much Boko Haram etc.). e.g. It's plausible that if other countries were invading/bombing Northern Ireland that the IRA would have attacked them too.
now, it's such a massive clusterfuck I have no idea where we go from here.
- I see your point too :) I get that it 'feels' political as much religious (if not more)... but the one difference I see that really stands out is the folks...PonyBoy
- ...doing the 'terror' for the most are willing to take themselves out in the process. That kind of 'faith' is just insane—I find myself in complete agreement...PonyBoy
- ... with your last statement: "I have no idea where we go from here."PonyBoy
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- It's the Saudis. Until people begin to acknowledge that fact, and their major contributions to Islam, they will only get stronger.IRNlun6