Shooting of the Day
Shooting of the Day
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- Ben990
In the news over here:
"The Americans are arming themselves at a record pace"
(...) Records of gun sales every month for seven months. The indices show that Americans are arming themselves at an unprecedented rate. And killings such as San Bernardino, far from curbing the phenomenon, are known to accelerate it. (...)
- gee... go figure...PonyBoy
- Maniacs go on mass-shootings... Politicians and Entertainers get to hire body guards / have Secret Service while everyone else is left fending for themselves...PonyBoy
- —anytime shit happens like this in the State people exercise they're 2nd ammend. right and step-up to defend themselves/family... makes tons of sense actuallyPonyBoy
- well.. not for people scared of a simple deadly device... to them it's time to panic and scream 'redneck' or 'godboy' towards anyone defending themselves & fam.PonyBoy
- But hey... Guns Kill... People don't - people need leadership / A Parental State to hold their hands through their woosified existancePonyBoy
- Like the terrorists stuff, it's a downward spiral. The more guns, the more death, the more death, the more guns.
Good luck.Ben99 - You understand that we are already past saturation in terms of arms... yes? You ban them here and all that is left with them is the criminal element...PonyBoy
- Thats why I say good luck.Ben99
- ... and that same 'criminal element' will find themselves arms when they damn well please... legal or not... so why tie the hands of the average citizen?PonyBoy
- Definition of criminal: someone who breaks the law. If the law states 'no guns'... do you really think they're going to give to fucks when we're this saturated?PonyBoy
- There are so many arguments here as to why it's not only fine... BUT SMART to arm yourself... I think you get that Ben... else why are you taking Karate?PonyBoy
- Criminals have guns over here too and they dont shoot normal people in their house. The biggest problem of USA is that you're all afraid. You're fucking afraid.Ben99
- No Ben... the biggest problem over here is that we stopped caring about our family unit, we stopped caring about morality vs. pleasure... we don't care...PonyBoy
- and its Wing Chun Kung Fu, not karate ;-)Ben99
- ... to raise our children with the love and normalcy that comes with a simple family unit. We've turned over our children's well-being to video games and tv...PonyBoy
- ... we've got a foul sense of what 'love for your fellowman' means. We have some SERIOUS problems.. we're def. scared to speak out about these things...PonyBoy
- ... and instead rely on pop-culture / bureaucrats to guide and teach us. It all starts with the youth... we stopped giving a shit about them years ago. :(PonyBoy
- The right to protect ourselves with arms was meant to step-up against a tyrannical gov... those days of 'fear' also still exist... gotta admit this is not as...PonyBoy
- ... secure or welcoming a nation as our bureaucrats would like us to be... that has everything to do with us RELYING ON THEM... and not family.PonyBoy
- over all crime is actually steady. gang violence is the bulk of crime stats. just a matter of what makes news and holds your attention.yurimon
- If everyone truly took care of their family first and then lovingly helped their neighbor ... just imagine where things would be.PonyBoy
- 'Family' is being shit on over here... absolutely torn apart— FUCK— we're being taught that the idea of a 'family' is ARCHAIC ffs—what should we expect??PonyBoy
- "Wing Chun Kung Fu"— haha! sorry!!! You're not painting the fence or waxing the floor. :D My wife and I are about to be enrolled in Krav Maga— so I feel you. :)PonyBoy
- All these massacres were done with legally obtained arms. That's about all there is to it. This silly "criminals will get them anyway" is a tired,formed
- A lot of those guys have boners... better than viagra.fadein11
- NRA argument, regurgitated over and over, right along with "guns don't kill" (even though, somehow, people don't kill w/o guns, crazy right?)formed
- not crazy... your statement is as regurgitated as the 'NRA' statement I supposedly just regurgitated... what about the family argument?PonyBoy
- HOw about you start pushing for MEN to be FATHERS again? Lean into that whole 'black lives matter' bullshit... imagine if those black kids had fathers...PonyBoy
- I guess you're right about the family thing. Family is the foundation of everything.Ben99
- ... that GAVE A FUCK... just imagine if we dumped the fucking HIP HOP lifestyles / stopped paying attention to what pop-culture is up to and started...PonyBoy
- So you will have a gun AND krav maga! You'll become INVINCIBLE! ;-)Ben99
- ... giving a fuck about our OWN sons and daughters / families and neighbors.PonyBoy
- I don't have a gun, Ben. :) I even sold my air-pellet hand gun. I'm not the gun-monger I just made myself out to be. I just 'get' why folks arm themselves...PonyBoy
- ... and have been seriously thinking about getting my wife and I armed given where we live.PonyBoy
- @ponyboys argument makes me never want to set foot in the states again... how fucked up can a society become?
No offense I have visited many, many timesfadein11 - and loved it everytime for so many reasons (NYC mainly) but jesus - Ponyboys argument is horrific... Rather than accept society is fucked Pony why not agreefadein11
- Ponyboy is right about the family, fatherhood and neighborhood community.yurimon
- something needs to be done? So confused but not American so probably always will be.fadein11
- Fade... have you noticed how prevalent and accepted it is to dress and act like you're a cast member of a Quentin Tarantino film over here? We have stopped...PonyBoy
- ... paying attention to the simple family foundation... we dress and act like the shit we see on tv (including the way we use / flaunt guns)...PonyBoy
- ... it should come to no surprise that we have the activity we do over here. We are DRIVEN by Pop-Culture.PonyBoy
- Fade!!! I'm BEGGING for change... you just don't need to take away our ability to 'attempt' to protect ourselves from our current situation.PonyBoy
- I've been saying this for years.yurimon
- I've been robbed MORE THAN ONCE just out wandering on foot... at gunpoint... I GET YOUR POINT!!!!!!! And to be clear - both robberies - I was fucked...PonyBoy
- ... and having a gun WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED ME. I couldn't just draw that shit and take my robbers out... I was fucked. :)PonyBoy
- Now... if I were upstairs in my room and heard something downstairs... both robbers would have been toast if I had a gun (which I don't)...PonyBoy
- ... but I'm also left to think about the many situations when folks are running for their lives in crowds—if only ONE person had a weapon... far less would die.PonyBoy
- I trust EVERYONE I know who owns a weapon to not take it out and just blow people away, btw... every gun owner I know is a solid good person that I trust.PonyBoy
- (this includes some of you that I know offline) :) YOu're good gun-owners... you don't act like assholes... you're responsible... this is the average gun owner.PonyBoy
- yuri... I know you've been saying this for years... and I've attempted to back you at times... but as you know it's not the easiest pursuit on this site...PonyBoy
- ... I've been on NT / QBN for 10+ years... I've always been outnumbered so I just back the fuck off. :) I love everyone here too much to fight...PonyBoy
- ... and I mean it when I use the word 'love'... I know a NUMBER of you offline and would be at your door the minute you asked for a friend (and vice versa)...PonyBoy
- ... I've prefrred to have (and keep) those relationships rather than fight on and offline... I much prefer design talk over death talk. :(PonyBoy
- Compare with other countries...Europe and Canada have just as much departure from "traditional family values" but not anywhere close to as much gun violence.yuekit
- Fair enough Pony - like I said its hard to understand when not in it... Never meant any offense. Just such a terrifying situation for such an advanced nation...fadein11
- It looks like there is no solution. And great point on Tarantino. Perhaps reality has become distorted, Reality is distorted over here also - but in differentfadein11
- ways I guess. I have been the victim of various crimes (multiple muggins, burglary) but not sure a gun would help me as I doubt I could pull the trigger unlessfadein11
- to literally save a family member. But it seems many are happy to fire in the US (and I am not talking about these crazed lunatics) over far less.fadein11
- Yep - Pony - I much prefer design talk also... this place has become a v.different animal over the last year or so... have a good weekend.fadein11
- Look at all of the dimwitted mindless fucks in one place buying guns, LMAO.utopian