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    "@imagineallthepeople - it is regularly reported here in Europe... been numerous incidents of Russian jets entering UK airspace and not being in a hurry to leave"

    hm, do you have an example of planes actually entering UK airspace without approval?

    I did try to find such an incident, even an accidental one, but couldn't find even a single one in the last 30 years. every report I found was in international air space, not UK airspace.

    I suppose people confuse reports à la "UK typhoons scrambled to intercept Bears" with an actual incursion into or violation of sovereign airspace. the difference being, one is a perhaps annoying (but perfectly legal) show of force outside of UK territory, the other one would be a clear casus belli if it is in fact done routinely.

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    • Sorry my semantics were wrong, it regularly enters airspace defended by the RAF, leading to numerous fighter scrambles... just google it, lots of example fromfadein11
    • recent years.fadein11
    • Really not going to get into a debate on my semantics - you understnad my point - Russia has done this a million times and it hasn't been shot down which is afadein11
    • massive overreaction by a very weak nation trying to flex its muscles on the international stage.fadein11
    • not trying to nitpick, but the difference is pretty serious. RAF has the same business defending international airspace as Russia has flying around there.imagineallthepeople
    • What the English Channel lol?fadein11
    • Okay you win - I am taliing bollocks - there you go - you've won the debate - whoop.
      I really couldn;t give a fuck if you cannot see the point I am making and      fadein11
    • it's a non-issue basically. people may find it worrying, I understand that. but nobody can accuse russia of violating anyone's territory...imagineallthepeople
    • focussing on minor details... enjoy your eve - don't reply ta.fadein11
    • the turks are protecting their interests just as russia protects theirs, just as the usa protect theirs, and on and on...Gnash
    • Russia purposely antagonises the UK in nearby airspace - that was my point. Blah blah - you win - have a good eve FFS.fadein11
    • ... when they only fly around over the north sea as show of force.imagineallthepeople
    • @gnash - did you see the flight path the jet took? I think he just wanted to get to his targets quicker so he could get home for some vodka and ghoulash ha.fadein11
    • My point has been made, if you cannt understand it - bad luck.fadein11
    • thank youimagineallthepeople
    • ^ ya, it looked like they just crossed that little bit of peninsula. if the bear wasn't bombing the turkmen then turkey may have done nothingGnash
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