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    gonna put this to bed real quick. Yuri posted this comment "look at the jama study. seems to be some professional opposition."

    ok, i'm game, i have an hour and a half to kill

    http://jamanetwork.com/solr/sear…

    2 links came up in the search autism vaccines

    first study;
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/arti…

    the very first couple of lines;

    'Despite research showing no link between the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism spectrum disorders (ASD), beliefs that the vaccine causes autism persist, leading to lower vaccination levels.'

    conclusion;
    'Conclusions and Relevance In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine was not associated with increased risk of ASD, regardless of whether older siblings had ASD. These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD.'

    ok, now the second article which touches on set's dreaded mercury shenanigans;

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/arti…

    i'll cut to the chase;
    'In conclusion, our results are not compatible with the hypothesis of a causal association between thimerosal and autistic-spectrum disorders.'

    and before anyone tries to get all semantic troll about the wording, here;
    http://medical-dictionary.thefre…

    third article addresses the supposed incriminating timeline that everyone waves around implying that vaccinations coincide with a upswing in autism.;

    http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/…

    conclusion;
    'Changes in reporting practices can account for most (60%) of the increase in the observed prevalence of ASDs in children born from 1980 through 1991 in Denmark. Hence, the study supports the argument that the apparent increase in ASDs in recent years is in large part attributable to changes in reporting practices.'

    yes yes, denmark, i know. well here is a study done in california;

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/arti…

    conclusion;
    'The lack of correspondence between the trends in MMR coverage and numbers of autistic disorder cases does not support the hypothesis that increasingly widespread MMR immunization of young children is associated with the marked secular trend of increasing numbers of autism cases enrolled in the California Department of Developmental Services regional service center system.'

    heres a good one;

    Autism and Immunizations
    Separating Fact From Fiction

    http://archneur.jamanetwork.com/…

    so anyways yuri, what were you saying?

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    • something something sheeple!scarabin
    • lolwut. ok the dl/dr version is vaccinations are good. get your kids vaccinated for fuck sake and stop giving money and support to con artistsgilgamush
    • or tl/dr rathergilgamush
    • agreedscarabin
    • vaccines can't melt steel autism!!sarahfailin
    • thermite can thoughgilgamush
    • after the first failed basement vanbomb, thermite demo charges were put in place. in the event the towers were going to fall sideways the demo charges wouldgilgamush
    • drop the buildings straight down saving countless livesgilgamush
    • a little bit too pragmatic for them to come out and admit though. because no, jet feul doesn't get anywhere near hot enough to make the kind of slag they foundgilgamush
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