The Cimate Change Poll

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    Climate change is something that is and will continue to happen. It's funny when politicians talk about curbing climate change or stopping it. They're more nutty than the people who don't believe in climate change. Especially since the majority just confuse the question with the implied cause.

    If the question is do humans effect climate it would be hard to see anyone really saying they don't. Everything effects. Now if the question is to what extent do they effect climate change compared to other things that is a whole different story that scientists can't even prove. They have models based on very myopic data that is usually skewered to prove their bias. And they try to figure stuff out, but I doubt any smart scientist can really believe his model accurately takes in all of the possible things driving climate change and measures them accurately. That would be pretty god like. I think dumb people just think smart scientists can measure and know all. I think it is also a little self centered to think we are so special that we are driving such a large change. It's more likely we are helping to either progress or hinder a natural rhythm.

    One thing is for sure we know that before humans existed their was ice ages and huge climate swings outside industrial man. Mayans and other ancient civilizations are thought to have moved from extreme climate change. Saw a NATgeo show about a remains in barren deserts that showed it once was a lush landscape with humans. The little ice age in the 1600s....
    We know extreme climate change existed before man, why do we think we are driving it now as the primary force when we never did before? I see no empirical evidence to believe such things, and I really am skeptical if any evidence can ever be given. All i see is data points proving ones incentivized biased views. And like climate change can anyone not agree that that a fear of something we cant do anything about or ever will be able to do anything about is a great mechanism in order to get people to pay people who say they can do something about it? Its a bit like religion in that after death cant be proven stuff. And its full of "well intentioned" plans that it makes it easy to throw money at and feel good about your idiocy in believing these "smart" people will take care of it.

    Climate change is just change. Its existence and without change there is only non-existence.

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    • let's not listen to this guy, its freaking 2015 people, the science is set in stone( the irony), let's put all the people that agree with him in camps!!georgesIII
    • My bowels move and change every day. Doesn't mean I don't blame some bad mexican food for a diarrhea session.inteliboy
    • Yes earth changes, all the time, often drastically. Though the correlation between man made co2 and global warming is overwhelming.inteliboy
    • correlation between man made co2 and global warming... How did they measure all manmade Co2? And how do they correlate it to something like global warming thatdeathboy
    • isnt a constant. And by global warming im guessing u just mean climate change. What is the difference than alarmism for the current warming now and the coolingdeathboy
    • in the 70s? Perhaps no difference than branding of a scare people don't understand for profitable gains?deathboy
    • since when are scientists a bunch of shady characters who are after profits?inteliboy
    • as for measurements - I have no idea. I'm not a climate scientist. Though it seems there's a shit load of them on internet forums.inteliboy
    • also, the global cooling thing in the 70's was a handful of wish wash, with barely any solid data... Like all these "climate denier" myths.inteliboy
    • There's always something. Some little twinkle of escapism and people latch on for dear life.inteliboy
    • Up a few posts it was the planet are all warming, now it's that we were sold global cooling in the 70's. Both of which are untrue.inteliboy
    • I had to stop after the third effect.ORAZAL
    • Lolset
    • @deathboy Can you directly refute the evidence in the Nasa link I posted above? You say you've seen no evidence, but there it is.nb
    • @nb I don't refute the link. Id guess they are right that c02 has risen. It rises with and without people. Id question why the higher levels dont quite equatedeathboy
    • with the current temperatures. shouldnt it be far warmer with that huge amount of co2?deathboy
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