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Out of context: Reply #310
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- Morning_star0
Firstly, apologies. Care to share what you do believe?
Secondly, I've said it before but the source of the report is largely irrelevant if the evidence is available for scrutiny. It becomes very clear, very quickly - when analysing the evidence - to establish if the claims are overblown or even false.
Sagan also said: Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the the presence of great art or music or literature, or of acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr.
The notion that science and spirituality are mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.
- I never said they weren't mutually exclusive, nor do I believe they are.OP31
- Also that sagan quote goes hand in hand with what i posted before.OP31
- So what does 'magical and mystical' refer to?Morning_star
- it means awe-inspiring, as much of nature's existence seems magical despite it being rationalmonospaced
- Morning_star, you keep accusing people of being "materialists" and being close minded but it sounds like you are the one who has already made up your mind about this stuff.ukit2
- already made up your mind about this stuff.ukit2
- It's a pretty big leap from some statistical studies showing people can guess a number more often than the average (which themselves are questionable) to concluding that magic is real and the universe is made up of consciousness.ukit2
- themselves are questionable) to concluding that magic is real and the universe is made up of consciousness.ukit2
- I'm not making that leap. I'm saying that these effects and phenomena exist. And They cannot be explained by the current materialist paradigm. You on the other hand claim they can, well be my guest, the floors yours.Morning_star
- the current materialist paradigm. You on the other hand claim they can, well be my guest, the floors yours.Morning_star
- You keep saying it's been proven when it really hasn't, look at all the problems with these kinds of studies pointed out earlier.ukit2
- But even if it was real, why couldn't there be a materialist explanation? Just because something is invisible or can't be sensed by humans doesn't make it non-material.ukit2
- sensed by humans doesn't make it non-material.ukit2