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"I think he was trying to be fair and open minded rather than pointing at any particular piece of data that convinced him."
I think you ought to take some time to understand the agenda of the CSI. They are the opposite but equivalent of the 'new agers' you are so dismissive of. Its hypocritical for you to claim one set of opinion can be discounted yet blindly accept the authority of another with nothing more than a personal prejudice fuelling your decision.
"And yes I get the idea that you shouldn't be too dogmatic but when you have something that throws everything else you know about the world into question there should be some really good evidence backing it up. As the article says, if yogis can really levitate and become invisible, why aren't there hundreds of YouTube videos showing that? For something its backers claim is so obvious, they sure have a hard time demonstrating it"
A world view that is entirely limited to a materialist or reductionist universe is unlikely to be able to adequately explain phenomena that fall outside of the its materialist paradigm. At the moment, the evidence is largely experiential or statistical. You dismiss first hand experience as bullshit and won't engage with the statistical evidence. Offering the lack of flying Yogis on YouTube as an example of how psi research has failed to provide adequate, easily digestible, proof-for-the-masses is retarded. It's not something I've investigated but there are several thousand Bigfoot, UFOS and ghost videos on YouTube, by your logic that must mean they exist.
- there isn't a single bigfoot or ghost video on youtube, except by titlemonospaced
- Take it up with ukit2, he's the one who's claiming that's what is necessary.Morning_star
- no, you twisted his words... he specifically said "good evidence." Those bigfoot videos are anything but.monospaced
- same goes for ghosts, and even more so for any telepathic or superhuman abilitiesmonospaced
- all the videos are either fake or just really bad assumptionsmonospaced
- What do you 'know' that establishes your claim. My guess would be that you 'believe' it but can't prove it.Morning_star
- because as of yet, no proof exists except for the worst evidence imagineable, lolmonospaced
- point is, if anything "supernatural" was happening, it'd be all over the place as normalmonospaced
- If you read the article I was quoting, it says video in a controlled environment. Should be easy to produce if this stuff is real right?ukit2
- real right? And the same goes for demonstrations of so-called psychic abilities. We shouldn't have to rely on Radin and his statistical meta-studies. Why not simply perform a demonstration of psychic ability and broadcast it to the world?ukit2
- statistical meta-studies. Why not simply perform a demonstration of psychic ability and broadcast it to the world?ukit2
- Personally I think the answer is that people like Radin don't want to go that far....they want to thread the needle so that there is just enough "evidence" (through questionable techniques and manipulation of stats) that it keeps their audience happy, but not enough that it can actually be debunked.ukit2
- just enough "evidence" (through questionable techniques and manipulation of stats) that it keeps their audience happy, but not enough that it can actually be debunked.ukit2
- not enough that it actually gets debunked and ends their career.ukit2
- mono practice to open up your 3rd eyeyurimon
- you mean the eye of ultimate gullibility?monospaced