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'it should be obvious why this is bullshit' - you're gonna have to do better than that. The link i provided in the quote claims (through independent analysis) that by the standards that exist in science at the moment ESP, Remote Viewing, Survival of Consciousness is proven. The results are statistically significant and are repeatable. Sorry, but your cry of 'Bullshit' needs some evidence in the context of Radins results.
The 'Proving photography to a blind man' article whilst interesting is not comparable. A more appropriate comparison for the effects of ESP would be Dark Matter/Energy. Scientists claim it's existence yet surely (using your process) they should just be able to give me a bit in a test tube or at least show me a picture of it, or if absolutely necessary, they should get one of their whizzy machines to detect it. Sadly they can do none of that. So is Dark Matter/Energy bullshit?
It always surprises me that people don't question the results of the HRC, the discovery of the Higgs Boson, when the majority of the work done at CERN is as you've said 'poring through statistics' to produce a probability. No one's ever seen the Higgs, there is no material evidence for it, just it's assumed effects manifesting themselves in a probability.
True science follows the evidence WHEREVER it leads. If there is evidence for paranormal effects then I don't understand why this should this be such a taboo.
- HRC should read LHC. Not even sure what HRC is. (Doh)Morning_star
- Problem is when they cant find a number to an equation they make it up and call it dark matter.yurimon
- I question the process of measuring. they measure not whole but the breaking of an atom. you get missing infoyurimon
- But the numbers are there and indicate it exists. You don't have to see inside the jar to know its full of liquid.monospaced
- Exactly the same with ESP.Morning_star
- no, not really, because blindly claiming something is not exactly the same as evidence pointing toward itmonospaced
- now I know you think they're not blind claims, but that's a difference of opinion.monospaced
- How is that 'opinion'. There have been accounts of unexplainable mind phenomenon for 1000s of years. There is now emerging evidence suggesting that the effect is real. Your going to have to explain why it's a difference of 'opinion' because as far as i can see it isn't.Morning_star
- evidence suggesting that the effect is real. Your going to have to explain why it's a difference of 'opinion' because as far as i can see it isn't.Morning_star
- it isn't.Morning_star
- Because all real tests have proven these "accounts" as total bullshit. Nobody can do it when asked in a controlled environmentmonospaced
- And all evidence that appears to support it is explainable some other way.monospaced
- so, it's your opinion that it's legit, and mine that it's total bullshit because it hasn't passed a real scientific testmonospaced
- Again, you're wrong https://www.ics.uci.…Morning_star