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This is actually a big story, Good to see people supporting each other..
- So should be pay the roughly 1 million he owes the government for grazing there?hereswhatidid
- asking you specifically, yurihereswhatidid
- There is more to the story. 1) he was there before these dept happened. 2) he said they changed the deal where he would pay to put himself out of businessyurimon
- would put himself out of business.yurimon
- so he didnt want to pay to put himself out of businessyurimon
- so you don't feel he should pay it?hereswhatidid
- If he had rights before and if the policy was made to put him out of business then no...yurimon
- So let's say your neighbor has a pool. And he says "Use it anytime you like, no need to ask"locustsloth
- And you do for many years and all is well. But then that neighbor moves and a new one moves in.locustsloth
- And one day your swimming in your new neighbor's pool and they kick you out.locustsloth
- Do you tell the neighbor, "Hey, i've been swimming here for years! i'm entitled to this!"locustsloth
- Because it was never the ranchers land, always federal public land. Feds have every right to change the rules on federally owned landlocustsloth
- federally owned land. The $1M pricetag, as i read it, is cumulative over the 20 yrs that he's been grazing without their permissionlocustsloth
- permission.
If ths disputed land was someone's private property, instead of federal, would you feel the same?locustsloth - the same way?locustsloth
- and it'd be OK if your neighbors then had their friends show up armed to threaten you for attempting to collect?hereswhatidid
- Federal use is much different then private. not even close to being an analogy.yurimon
- Also you are talking about 100 plus years ago.. where was it structured before civil war?yurimon
- Also bleeds into state rights issue because of it. Plus Gov is servant of people not a landlord.yurimon
- As a debate question. I would ask you what you think the role of gov is? and is for filling it?yurimon
- Alot of people see disturbing policies that cause more harm then good. bureaucratic issues.yurimon
- So you're ok with someone using government land to feed their cattle? Seems like a government hand out to mehereswhatidid
- please refer to statement of rights in use 100+ years ago. some posts down :)yurimon