Human Origins Rethink ?

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    I haven't weighed in yet because I see nothing here that is mutually exclusive with my faith. I remain ambivalent about whether the earth was created in six literal days, or six billion years (or whatever). I figure that if God is capable of creating worlds ex nihilo, he can arrange his schedule however he wants and it need not affect us latter-day humans very much.

    The one exception I take to these findings is not new at all, and that's the notion that this Ardi skeleton represents a clear precursor to humans. I still think it's an enormous leap to say "OK, we found all these primates with varying levels of advancement, and based on what we've observed about modern-day animals and educated guesses about archaeological finds, that means we've found grandma and/or grandpa."

    I have no reason to believe there's anything falsified about these remains, I just think the conclusions paleontologists arrive at regarding the connection between us and various hominids is an unwarranted leap. Where science stops, faith makes connections, and faith in something is unavoidable.

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    • well yes, it is "leaps" based on the assumption that evolution is true. Teleos is also making leaps when heKhurram
    • but such doubt extended to the rest of the good book must cause you painstrooperbill
    • says this proves "devolution" happened and we don't come from lemurs. Where is he getting THAT from? Nowhere.Khurram
    • He is a lemur.DrBombay
    • I agree, at the end of the day....evolution or not we are still faced with the big God question.designbot
    • And neither side is mutually exclusive.designbot
    • Well then, god supposedly created man in his own image. A fucking ape.DrBombay
    • A filthy fucking ape.DrBombay
    • The last supper image looks like planet of the apes.DrBombay
    • Changes a lot actually.DrBombay
    • So because you believe man evolved from an ape like ancestor, you cannot believe in God?designbot
    • I am asking you that personally.designbot
    • God is an ape then, isn't he? We were created in his image, no?DrBombay
    • Obviously you don't believe what's written in the Bible, so why do you use it to try and prove your point?designbot
    • Take the Bible out of the equation and answer my question.designbot
    • How can I take the bible out of a God discussion?DrBombay
    • If there is a God, is he not bigger than the book written about him?designbot
    • Then why read it, quote it, preach it etc? You don't even believe that so stop it.DrBombay
    • No I believe that. You are evading the question. My point is that you can come to knowledge of God without the Bible.designbot
    • Was man created in God's image according to the bible?DrBombay
    • Because God is much bigger than a book.designbot
    • I believe that man came from apes and find it at odds with the christian god story.DrBombay
    • Why do you reply to my questions with more questions? You can't even answer my simple question.designbot
    • What makes you think god is bigger than a book, you learned about him from that book.DrBombay
    • So does that completely exclude God for you?designbot
    • I came to know God outside of the Bible. I believe it is His word though, yes.designbot
    • So why does your belief in god perfectly jive with the teachings in the bible if you know him some other way.DrBombay
    • It's kinda crap, db. Get it?DrBombay
    • Everyone says they "have a personal relationship with god". Which of the 100 different flavors of christianity?DrBombay
    • You are deafening your own ears by assuming too many things Dr.B. If God exists and is the creator of the universe why are all things not possible?designbot
    • are all things not possible?designbot
    • Rides magical unicorn out of this note section... it is retarded.DrBombay
    • I think you know that truth exists outside of your tiny bubble. You just choose to keep the blindfold on.designbot
    • My family is Jewish, are they blind?DrBombay
    • Seems to me you are the one in a bubble. The Christian God bubble.DrBombay
    • To think your religion has all the answers is a man-made bubble you are in.DrBombay
    • I didn't arrive here through being raised Christian or reading the Bible though.designbot
    • I was only open to the idea of Him. God has the ability to reach all those who seek Him by any means.designbot
    • I know that's contrary to the Western view of the Christian God, but I speak the truth.designbot
    • So does Allah and Buddha, but they are all false gods in your estimation.DrBombay
    • Think of it this way....God can reach anyone if they are willing. If the Bible is His word, he will then lead them to His word.designbot
    • If you were born and lived in Rammallah, do you think you would be Christian, be honest.DrBombay
    • But this opportunity exists only for those who seek. It's not about being duped into a certain belief.designbot
    • Seeking God is ultimately saying I am a frail human, in my weakness and limited understanding I seek the truth and trust if God exists he will meet me.designbot
    • ...and trust if God exists He will meet me.designbot
    • and guide me to that truth.designbot
    • The same thing could be said about Allah, don't you f'ing get it?DrBombay
    • But what you are not understanding is if God exists and I seek Him, will He not lead me to the truth?designbot
    • Being born and raised Muslim is not seeking the truth, it's being born into a religion. Same is true with Christianity.designbot
    • I refuse to type anymore in this note box. It sucks when it gets this long.DrBombay
    • Agreed. At least consider my words. It boils down to, how would you know either way without at least being opendesignbot
    • and seeking..there is no loss.designbot
    • Same could be said about any other religion you think is full of shit.DrBombay
    • Wow, 53 notes deep. What an astoundingly tiny argument.gramme
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