CP+B outsourcing on Crowdspring...
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lukus_W, nobody is forced to use their business. The fact that they set up during a down-turn is a good sign that you can launch a successful business even in hard times.
I was kidding about the "overpaid" part. Some people make gigantic money, a lot make shit money, quite a few make decent money and this is the way it should be, in any business - be it a corporation or drug dealing (there is a fascinating analysis in Freakonomics http://www.amazon.com/Freakonomi… ). The market decides everyone's work worth.
Exploitation? Are you kidding? Are you forced to use them? Is anyone? They are providing a platform, they put a lot of work into it - what's wrong with charging for it? Because designers are afraid spec work will become the expected way of commissioning work by clients?
Good designers have nothing to be afraid of. They don't do spec work if they don't want to.CrowdSpring is a good way for beginners to build a portfolio and for businesses to try a cheap solution.
I always said cheap teenage designers who lived with their parents and worked for peanuts were a very important part of the ecosystem. They educate the client (while getting educated themselves).
The rookie client goes to them for a cheap solution first, learns a lesson not to deal with amateurs and the next year is back at the pro's door. If the kid is good though, he'll become a pro and will rise his prices in a year or two anyway.There is a chance however we are observing a paradigm shift, one similar to the observed slow extinction of newspapers.
Perhaps spec work for peanuts is the future?!.. I guess this is the biggest fear.To insulate yourself from these problems, be super-good at what you do and spread the word you are expensive.
Turmoil or not, Rolls-Royces and Ferraris always have business.- if someone doesn't have many options -> they're more likely to take what's offered...lukus_W
- .. offering them the 'chance' to get paid, is exploiting their situation imo.lukus_W
- .. and the fact they set up in a downturn ensures they have more people on the breadline willing to take anything.lukus_W
- That's a very socialist view - someone giving a chance is "exploiting" :)raf
- But you are right - there isn't enough jobs for all in design, some should seek other careers. Nothing wrong with that.raf