Intelligent design
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I get sick of the lack of logic and scientific method in this thread...
i.e. there is no logic in saying 'if something is complex then it must have had an intelligent designer'. Complex systems could also be designed by natural design processes every bit as 'clever' and 'non-random' as any sentient being/thing/whatever could do. So theres at least 2 possibilities for how a complex system could come to be..
And the universe could have been caused by an outside 'first cause' that wasnt 'god', maybe another universe/thingy outside ours? Theres lots of theories on that (including 'turtles all the way down' theories)...
Just seems people get hung up on bits of the argument without the bits they are arguing being based on sound logic or looking at all possibilities..