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- nylon
How does one go about getting a new job these days?
LinkedIn is a waste of time.
I also feel like the recruitment firms are also a waste of time i.e. they want to pay you less than what Creative Directors were earning 20 years ago.
Where is the best place to look? Any advice would be great.
Based in Chicago if that helps - also open to remote.
Thanks
- _niko3
Krop? how else do you explain that Ferrari money?
- canoe0
What are your core specialities and what's your freelance rate?
- Im a brand guy at heart but over the years I've work on so many specialities - identity, print, digital, environmental, web, app >nylon
- Problem is when you ar 50, you sound like a jack of all trades...nylon
- I just need to figure something out as Uncle Sam not gonna give me medical benefits on his own :(nylon
- CyBrainX2
I've been doing this since 1994. It's never been worse. I thought after 9/11 was the worst and that was rough for about 6 months but manageable after that. Even Covid was better than this. I don't even expect to have a career when I lose my job in a few months. I hate to be so negative but other people are going to say it's an "interesting time right now" when they feel the same way as me.
- Nairn0
I do my own lasering thing, but when things are lean, I've always fallen back on Web and Graphic Design but... that's just evaporated.
All my clients in those previous domains are also feeling financial pressure, so are now using AI to achieve competent, but shite, solutions for themselves. The solutions aren't great, but work.They don't care. They have a bottom-line to think about.
I got paid for sorting an 'ex-' client's DNS woes as that was beyond the scope of competence of the AI they use.
Dire times.
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Sorry, nylon, I don't know what to suggest to you. xNairn
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- ideaist0
@nylon,
I too am (once again) shifting from "aggressively underemployed" (self employed) to gainfully employed...
...AND...
"...it's an "interesting time right now" ~ @CyBrainX.
: )
Many eggs in many baskets is the approach I've taken; LinkedIn, Indeed, etc. as well as getting out and meeting IRL with colleagues, family, friends, etc. etc. etc. SOOO you're active on both the online AND offline social networks.
It does scare me a tad being:
I. 40+
II. Male
III. "out of the job market" for about 5 years nowI've always shifted between working for myself AND for someone else BUT like we're all alluding to above it feels different now AND both feel tender / delicate right now.
Godspeed all!
#GoTeam
- canoe0
I'm opening a local agency...
Instead of promoting the agency, I'm promoting the area and "sponsoring" the promotion (brought to you by...) Content marketing and place branding as my lead-generation engine. By promoting the area instead of services, I skip the boring, self-serving pitch that business owners ignore, and instead hand them something they actually care about: pride in their local community.
It also helps that the name of the city is in my URL and "marketing" so SEO should be solid quickly. Plus I'm going to max out my Local SEO program as well. I have done photoshoots in the area so I have real work that has products set at wineries and other idyllic locations.
I'm bringing in senior people that do other things better than I do like B2B strategy.
Taking an AI MasterClass certification and will focus in on 3 industries that are prominent here.
I'm tired of chasing freelance jobs and just want retainer work but offering strategy for long term and tactical for short term projects.
Next year I'm going to make a shop for the site where I will sell locally-oriented products that can be sold online through the site and sold at local tourist/book stores. I always loved the idea of hybrid agency ever since my first job interview at Pangborn.
This is what I'm doing at 52, trying to create a business I can later sell. My son still has 6 more years of school, so I gotta start now... I'm not sure we're going to stay here after he graduates. The site goes live in about 10 days.
For me, it's all about control now. I'm so tired of hit-and-miss bullshit and I'm not corporate at all - can't stand the kiss ass and the cut throats.
- Precisely why I asked about what your skills are because I have work to provide. Always have, it's just super hard to get QBNers, except palimpsest, to engagecanoe
- bainbridge1
Are you a designer?
I see plenty of studios and agencies post on their Instagram.
Even just a story that they're hiring, so you got to pay attention.
- autoflavour1
you dont. just hold your breath and wait for the everything collapse
- it has already collapsedneverscared
- https://giphy.com/gi…GuyFawkes
- ^ I agree with all of those hand wavers.CyBrainX
- lemmy_k2
I made a career change at 54. I lost my job in Feb and it took four months to find a job. I got the one I wanted, but not after starting another one first. I am still getting rejection letters and offers from jobs I applied for in March and April.
I applied for the one I wanted in May and I don't even start until Aug 24th.
I used Indeed and Zip Recruiter as well as going to most companied "career" page. I found agencies to be a colossal waste of time. I had one ask if I wanted remote work. I do building maintenance.
So many of them I applied for had to be fake postings or jobs that were never going to be filled by an applicant.- Must be pretty tough to get a job in the creative fields at age 54. Or most jobs these days. Good luck.NBQ00
- OBBTKN1
This industry is brutal, and I often wonder if it’s worth being such a masochist...
What keeps us loyal to it?
- nuggler1
I have aged out of the agency system. Now I call myself "retired" while I design fonts and draw my odd little comics.
There are jobs on Craigslist if you want to be a delivery driver. I drove an Edible Arrangements van for a while. $17/hr not really worthwhile though.
- _niko1
if only we followed hedge and took his advice instead of making fun of the cunt...
- Nutter2
A friend told me they were seeking a UI designer at the pension company he works for. Would be quite the change from the games industry, but the more I thought about it the better it sounded.
- Most likely better pay
- Definitely a better pension plan
- Properly no 10 months of 8+ hours mandatory overtime
- Time to do creative stuff in spare timeSo I applied, fingers crossed.