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Last post: 4 months ago | Thread started: May 7, 08, 6:44 a.m.
- detritus
Mr Johnson said: "I firmly believe that if we drive out so-called minor crime then we will be able to get a firm grip on more serious crime."
I thought they'd quashed the legitimacy of the 'broken windows' policing canard at the start of this century?
ffs, it's less Conservative than it is Regressive.
- Dog-earMay 7, 08, 6:52 a.m. – Permalink
- neue75_bold
I hope it doesn't affect the Stansted Express...
- Dog-earMay 7, 08, 6:56 a.m. – Permalink
- detritus
I can't remember the details beyond 'an improvement in the economy; changes in drug consumption and demographics'.
A quick scan of this Beeb page gives a good rounding off though.
I worked at the main regional paper when they were implementing this philosophy in M'Boro, so there was lots and lots of reading and research going around - well, around the North East, anyway.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne… :
Criticisms of 'zero tolerance'
1. There are negative consequences of aggressive policing:
A 29-year-old man choked to death when a police officer in New York arrested him for participating in a game of street football. In the subsequent homicide trial of the arresting officer, the defence claimed the officer was "simply following orders to focus on quality of life crimes such as loitering". This prompted criticism that police had become too aggressive in handling petty offences.
2. There are other explanations for falling crime in New York:
* Fewer people are taking violence-inducing crack cocaine and are instead turning to more soporific heroin.
* Some claim that the fall is the happy by-product of demographic change. The peak ages for offending are the teenage years and the numbers of this group have fallen.
* Many of the people who were responsible for perpetrating the majority of violent or other crimes in the 1980s and early 90s are now in prison.
* New York hired 7,000 new police recruits to pursue 'zero tolerance' when it already had twice as many police per head as Britain.3. Crime has also fallen in areas without 'zero tolerance' policing:
Crime has fallen significantly in areas where different policing methods have been used. In San Diego, since 1993 murders have fallen by 41%, robberies by 36% and burglaries and vehicle-related crime by over 40%.
These results followed the building of partnerships between police and the public. Emphasis being placed on resolving problems long-term, working with other agencies and organisations, galvanising people to join in residents' associations, setting up partnerships with the Housing Commission to evict problem residents and redesigning public areas to reduce crime.
4. The long-term effects are unknown:
* 'Zero tolerance' works well in densely populated areas with relatively high policing levels and large amounts of petty crime. However, where the population is more dispersed or the crime rate is already relatively low, it may have little effect.
* In areas of high racial tension, the policy might leave locals feeling victimised.
* The original proponents of the 'Broken Windows' theory argue that police must be sensitive to community and local experience.5. There is too much emphasis on performance indicators:
Some police are critical of the way performance is judged by the number of crime reports taken, warrants executed, street searches carried out and arrests. They argue this discounts policing priorities established in consultation with local communities or how responsive officers were to crime victims. Charles Pollard, the Chief Constable of Thames Valley Police, is a vocal sceptic of the strategy. He argues that the fall in crime could be more apparent than real if police are tempted to manipulate statistics in the drive to meet targets.
6.'Zero Tolerance' is only one part of wider strategy:
Although falls in crime have been attributed to 'zero tolerance', other strategies have also played an important role. For example, some emphasise the role of 'Compstat' - new computer software which produces weekly crime statistics for small geographical areas. The figures are examined in detail at weekly meetings in which chiefs of department question colleagues on their investigations. Many say this has a galvanising effect on officers and produces more focused policing.
- Dog-earMay 7, 08, 7:05 a.m. – Permalink
- mikotondria3
How the hell did this man get elected ??? Seriously, my ex-fellow countrymen - what have you done ? Can noone remember the endless years of Tory rule...OK, you don't like the current Government because of the million new laws infringing on your daily lives, but hey - news-fucking-flash, that's happening everywhere, and it's nothing to do with the current government of any country at any one time, read some David Icke, or water down some Alex Jones and you might be closer to the truth.
For God's sake don't get this bunch of degenerates back in - You. Will. Be. Very. Very. Sorry.
FFS.
Boris is a very very wealthy man, therefore it is a concious choice to have his teeth like that... He makes me laugh, but so did Bernad Manning...
- Dog-earMay 7, 08, 7:10 a.m. – Permalink
- Jaline
Hmm...I prefer this prohibition, actually. But that's because I could care less about drinking.
To see the other side, it'd be much safer to get on a bus while drinking compared to driving around. As long as you're not harming anyone else on the bus, it's fine. I wonder if more ppl will drink and drive now. I don't know much about how many people take the bus over there though.
- Dog-earMay 7, 08, 7:14 a.m. – Permalink
