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  • _niko10

    Slow clap for Mossad.
    You gotta hand it to them, this security breach and infiltration was Trojan horse level.

    3000 injured and 9 dead from simultaneously exploding pagers.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cw…

    fucking nuts, I'm guessing that since they managed to rig them with explosives they were also monitoring the communication as well.

    But did they have to rig something that you carry at dick-level. Just fucking evil.

    • Well. Shit.Nairn
    • imagine playing with your baby, or reading to your toddler on your lap and it goes off. Just unimaginably sick and unjustified... and I'm guessing illegal_niko
    • Dang. And pagers were invented by a Jew, shoulda done their researchGnash
    • the scale of this operation should be the conversation.imbecile
    • I don't think they had to rig them with explosives, it's just the batteries that can get overheated until explosion.
      But yes, very smart/evil.
      Longcopylover
    • Savage. That's Mossad for you.Continuity
    • given they are pagers neither popular battery style traditionally used is really susceptible to such sabotage within a short time span even with trojan softwareimbecile
    • as to say, how quickly and reliably could the internal circuits of an unmolested pager be used to detonate only itself?imbecile
    • Crazy. Sure they can do the same with the smartphones...OBBTKN
    • These weren’t batteries burning. Mossad must have installed explosives by interior using the supply chainGnash
    • Interrupting *Gnash
    • this reads like a plot from an unproduced Bond film from the 90’s. the must have asked HollywoodGPT for some fresh ideas.monNom
    • Israel is dancing circles around Iran and Hezbollah with all these actions... but this is also basically just terrorism on a mass scale.yuekit
    • And even if you killed a hundred Hezbollah members I'm sure there will be a thousand new recruits who can fire the rockets into Israel. So it's "clever" butyuekit
    • neither side seems to be thinking rationally about where this is all headed. Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas will undoubtably try to respond with some kind of terroristyuekit
    • attack of their own.yuekit
    • something out of a 90s action movieinteliboy
    • think of where people keep pagers. lots of hips blown up, and dicks blown off.Akagiyama
    • I didn’t even know pagers existed anymore... and THOUSANDS were detonated? Where they handing these out or something?toemaas
    • from what i've read it doesn't seem like actual explosives. cuz one of those 3000 people would have gone on air plane and they would have noticed the explosivespango
    • more likely someone figured out how to stress out the batteries to make them explode.pango
    • we've all seen videos of batteries explode.
      but not pagers rigged with explosives.
      pango
    • It looks like they did plant them with explosives after all.yuekit
    • https://www.reuters.…yuekit
    • It was just some kind of explosive material that can't be detected easily but can be triggered remotely. And somehow Hezbollah ordered from a companyyuekit
    • that allowed Israel to do this. Maybe the person in Lebanon who ordered the pagers was secretly helping Israel.yuekit
    • Who the fuck uses pagers in 2024... oh, okay, medieval cunts. What a ridiculous time to be alive! Cant wait for the Hollywood version of this bullshit.Ianbolton
    • Are pagers the new burners?mort_
    • Where the pagers owners terrorists? I am confused is this a random terrorist attack by Israel?Salarrue
    • I need to know: WHAT was the last message they got on the pager?stewart
    • ^ ”your 72 virgins are waiting”Gnash
    • "Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah on February 13 warned the group's supporters that their phones were more dangerous than Israeli spies"sted
    • Reuters my ass it isn't running from Taiwan.sted
    • BAC in Budapest is one of the "trading" companies... CEO said: "I don't make beepers. I'm just the mediator. I think they got it wrong.”sted
    • no matter how smart it seems its a real inhumane, disgusting solution, what only catalyzes further conflict.sted
    • it really perfectly shows that both sides are filthy terrorists who are a threat to the rest of humanity on every level.sted
    • this is surgical targeting, at least. better than random bomb drops in populated, non-military areasGnash
    • "who use pagers?" ER doctors do. and people who needs to be contacted where cell phone usually have weaker signals.pango
    • It had to be an intercepted lot / modified pagers. Lithium batteries don't explode, they pop and start spewing liquid fire all over the place.garbage
    • Mossad's been rigging cell phones with bombs since the 90s, and now they have everybody scared of cell phones and pagers.garbage
    • Enter: Explosive Messenger Pigeons.garbage
    • the terrorists (not ER docs, lol) switched to using pagers because they believed Mossad had intercepted their cell trafficGnash
    • Obviously not the reason ER Doc switched lol. In fact ER Doc didn't switch. they picked it on purpose. Because pager signals are stronger than cell phone.pango
    • It was a reply to someone's question. lol wasn't even talking to you.pango
  • _niko14

    They are the chosen ones, this is god’s plan, they can do whatever they want to. Desert scribes from 3000 years ago told them so.

    Vs

    A burning bush from 1300 years ago told a dude on a flying horse that they were in fact the chosen ones and it was their duty to defend god at all costs.

    One group of irrational and delusional psychos living in fairytale land vs another. What do you expect?

    • there's that toodoesnotexist
    • That's a little bit reductive though. The Flying Horse crowd's land was stolen by other countries to give to the desert scribe culties. So, you can imagine theyContinuity
    • ... might have a bit of a grudge about that.Continuity
    • Which is the lesser evildrgs
    • /which is the less successful cultNairn
    • yeah for sure Continuity, I slightly favour he flying horse crowd in this conflict as well but as a whole they're both fucking nuts.
      not that the 3rd crowd,
      _niko
    • ...the ones that worship a dude that walks on water, turns water into wine and other David blain level party tricks are any better. Fucking lunatics all of them_niko
    • Correction, burning bushies and desert scribies are the same people. Flying horse people are the other ones.Beeswax
    • also flying horse people's granparents sold their land for money to burning bushies and now grandkids want it back.Beeswax
    • Both sides are severally fucked up!utopian
    • reducing this to bollock-brained lib atheism, while disregarding almost 80 years of oppression, brutality, and apartheid. good job.face_melter
    • jup, both parties ar dump as fuck.milfhunter
    • Enlightened centrism.palimpsest
    • fighting against colonization and apartheid isn't dumb as fuck.doesnotexist
    • Funny how many slavo ukraini tits are now showing open sympathy for the oppressor, for the occupier.Khurram
    • Not unlike Hollywood Vlod here expressing his solidarity for the Zionists https://twitter.com/…Khurram
    • Good little Euro-American. You wonder why the global majority hates you and your "cause".Khurram
    • And he had the guts to stand in front of the Arab League talking about "anti-colonialism." In front of the President of Syria no less.Khurram
    • You puppet of the American hegemon. You vanguard of the US Empire, your time is coming.Khurram
    • Yeah face melter when you peel back all the layers of dirt and shit this is what it comes down to, it’s what’s keeping it going. It’s the extremism’s on both_niko
    • *extremists on both sides that are fuelling this. The don’t start intifadas over apartheid and lack of freedom and education and economic opportunity, intifadas_niko
    • Start when one group goes over and pisses on the other groups temple. The rational and the secular ones are the ones that want peace but the zealots prevent it_niko
    • Starts with Great Britain. Ends with America.Khurram
  • Jrdntnnr13

    Receiving treatment at the hospital, having to shelter in the stairwell from missiles. Average day.

    • It must take immense strength and resilience to endure this challenge.
      Much love, stay strong!
      uan
    • The other day I was taking the kids to their grandparents, got caught by a siren and had to duck and cover on the side of the road. For me it's OK,Jrdntnnr
    • But they won't be coming out of this psychologically unscathedJrdntnnr
    • And also a collective sorry for some of us here getting trapped in egoistic opinions / discussions from far away. Keep your spirit strong!uan
    • From personal experience, kids are more resilient than one might think. Encourage open communication and provide time and space to express their thoughts.uan
    • Good to hear your fam is safe for now. I can’t even imagine what you’re going through. Stay strongGnash
    • +1 uan
      @Jrdntnnr I can't imagine what you and yours are going through either. And I'm going to echo uan: deep apologies
      Continuity
    • for the level of discourse here, it must make awful reading for you, everything considered.Continuity
    • <3PonyBoy
    • Keep it strong, time heals almost everything... Stay safe <3OBBTKN
    • Thanks everyoneJrdntnnr
    • Protecting your kids through this is a nightmare I can't even fathom, talking about them shows how important they are to you.whatthefunk
    • sorry to hear...stay safe!utopian
    • stay healthy stay safe !neverscared
  • maikel14

    I don't understand all the hate guys. I really like Hummus.

    • How can you hate this hummus.
      Look at it .. it’s perfect.
      Ramanisky2
    • Easy to make, too!scarabin
    • It's pronounced Hummus.misterhow
    • You can't hate Hummus.Continuity
    • Mister how, can you say that again? I got my ear real close to the screen but didn’t quite catch it.maikel
    • ^ flolContinuity
    • i'll say it slowly, with a different accent... Hummus. I hope that helpsimbecile
    • Come again? Maybe you can fax me that. Or maybe I need to turn on the hearing aids. Or both.maikel
    • Hummm AssssssRamanisky2
  • yuekit4

    "They made a big mistake and will pay for it. Whoever attacks us, we attack them. This strike will have consequences."

    https://www.politico.eu/article/…

    • Iran was dumb enough to give Israel what it always wanted, a reason.YakuZoku
    • old fucks killing thousands and thousands of civilians for fucking religions and political shit. Fuck all of them.HAL9001
    • Yup, fuck them all!utopian
    • Elected old fucks.mort_
    • Cunts are still running the world.jagara
    • Cunts are still ruining the world.hans_glib
    • this will not end well.renderedred
    • Think i preferred COVID to World War 3, but beggars can't be choosers apparentlyIanbolton
    • You will do nothing you filthy Israeli cockroaches. Just like last time. You did nothing then. You will do nothing now. Absolutely fucking nothing.Khurram
    • You haven't given us a Ukraine update in a while yuekit - what's going on over there? You wanna share a breaking news for us?Khurram
    • Maybe put up a picture of Putin the bogeyman to drive your point home? lolKhurram
    • https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
    • @Khuram that's some strong language man...renderedred
    • You really think they'll do nothing? I predict the opposite...let's see who ends up being right.yuekit
    • War of Silly Hatsfuturefood
    • The Grand Poobah vs the Supreme Wizardyuekit
    • rendered - you're a good man and socialist. I anoint you an honorary Palestinian. You will do well as a Palestinian Jew in a socialist secular Palestinian stateKhurram
    • Welcome brotherKhurram
    • @yuekit - they will do fucking NOTHING.Khurram
    • Thisi ain't your daddy's "Middle East" anymore home slice. You are in for a world of pain and you will see what a real quagmire is.Khurram
    • And this isn't men in turbans. You can replace that Israeli's picture with the American flag. It's not Netanyahu, it's not Israeli. It's AMERICAKhurram
    • It is the Americans who are orchestrating this slaughter of Arab people. As they have done for the last two decades of my life. American pigs.Khurram
    • you make it sound like Netanyahu doesn't want to do it.pango
    • So all the conspiracy theories about Jews running the world were wrong? :)

      In this case the Israeli government is clearly the one making the decision
      yuekit
    • to escalate. I don't know how you could draw any other conclusion after watching the events of the past year.yuekit
    • It is the Americans you fucking tool.Khurram
    • Netanyahu belongs to America.Khurram
    • Israel belongs to America.Khurram
    • It is an American decision whether this will escalate or not. Made in the Whitehouse.Khurram
    • So the Americans are in control and won't respond to Iran?yuekit
    • They’re not orchestrating the slaughter of Arabs, they’re orchestrating the slaughter of radicalized idiots. Brain-dead religious zealots who terrorize_niko
    • ...in the name of imaginary gods. Moronic. Saudis are arabs and they’re flourishing, as are Qataris, Kuwaitis, People in the UAE, etc. as are every fucking Arab_niko
    • In the US, they are extremely well off, successful and live a great life. As do the Persians in the US and abroad. So it’s not an American vendetta against arab_niko
    • Arabs, or Persians or Muslims, it’s a war against fucking idiots. Now having said that, I’m not defending a country who’s about to potentially re-elect trump,_niko
    • Who’s biggest celebrity and role model is the Hawk tua girl and young girls’ ambition in life is to sell their ass on only fans, for sure America is fucked but_niko
    • So is every other country in the world, all have positives all have shit. I also don’t agree with their one-sided support of Israel, blood’s on their hands 100%_niko
    • And I fear that this won’t end well. The US has shown great restraint up until now really, but one day and maybe soon, a home-made nuke will detonate in tel-avi_niko
    • Or maybe in New York... then you’ll see what an unhinged, rampaging nothing to lose Yankee is really capable of. Then we’re all fucked._niko
    • @niko what are these ‘idiots’ supposed to do when Israel keeps expanding their territory and bulldozing the homes of their families.mort_
    • I don't know, do whet everyone else in the world does and solve it with diplomacy, through courts or with their brains? Yeah Israel are cunts they bring a lot o_niko
    • of this not theirselves, what with being gods chosen ones and all that bs, but the use of violence only hardens their resolve and justifies their actions_niko
    • in their minds, they see themselves as protectors of the land from savages and barbarians._niko
    • is Khurram NBQ, but with a beard?rzu-rzu
    • Israelis are clever, make no doubt about it, they know world opinion now and historically is against them, but they need some fodder to gather sympathy and_niko
    • support. So it becomes, yeah we're taking over more land but it's for security, these animals are slaughtering our youth at raves and bombing our cities so we'r_niko
    • ...we're only protecting ourselves and will continue to do so until this violence stops (which they hope never will) and every Arab and muslim is out of Israel_niko
    • I just read your comment @Khurram, thank you for the endorsement. I personally don't care. I'm a Jerusalemite, we view things a bit different...renderedred
    • ...because we are all mixed here.renderedred
    • Neither side ever want peace, the Arabs and Jews both love war and slaughtering each other...Fuck them both!utopian
    • just read Khurram's comment too, that's be something, a secular socialist Palestinian state...Arafat's dream. We can only wish._niko
  • milfhunter5

    Groundwar has begun

    • Honestly, this is a dead end, this will never stop because no one is going to give up.
      It's just going to escalade.
      ApeRobot
    • And again, again and again. You're right Ape, this will never stop... sad :(OBBTKN
    • Where's Jared Kushner?BusterBoy
    • Isreal have a constant bombardment of missiles thrown at them daily. This was inevitable and I can't see how it will ever end.Ianbolton
    • Who could possibly have foreseen these difficulties when thinking up the idea of Zionism?!!mort_
    • ^cherub
    • ^^Continuity
    • ^^^kingsteven
    • it could end tomorrow if the US decided to stop their funding. the lie is that Joe is powerless to stop it despite signing off on billions.face_melter
    • Joe is 'so angry' that the genocidal maniacs he funds and enables are continuing their atrocities.face_melter
    • and that the US Govt. is bumbling around not knowing how this could ever end. meanwhile, more civilains die and Joe shrugs his shoulders and eats ice cream.face_melter
    • Stop blaming the USmonospaced
    • https://upload.wikim…palimpsest
    • The Israel lobby in the US use their huge amount of power to influence policy and narrative in favour of Israel.mort_
    • He is powerless to change this.mort_
    • (Biden)mort_
    • He's also pro Israel, always has been.mort_
    • This has the USA's fingerprints all over it.utopian
    • Yes USA is involved big time.milfhunter
  • i_monk10

    If Israel can infiltrate target Hezbollah members so precisely, it means their shooting and bombing of civilians in Gaza is entirely avoidable and therefore deliberate.

    • < correctContinuity
    • They ended up killing loads of kids and medical workers, so seems more or less their usual style.PhanLo
    • It means they can do both.monospaced
    • Works both waysGnash
    • It means they literally don't give a shit about The Innocent.
      This is old testament smiting, writ anew. Again.
      Nairn
    • I don’t the get the impression either side is doing any better or worse in that regardmonospaced
    • Yeah, but one by far wields the bigger stick and so, imperatively, the greater moral weight.Nairn
    • If they are so capably-able to do what they have done just now in Lebanon, I find it hard to believe they were not also at least somewhat aware of what was ...Nairn
    • ... going to happen a year ago.Nairn
    • A couple of kibbutz and a hippie festival? More than an adequate price to pay.Nairn
    • They were alerted to the planned attack by Egypt days or weeks earlier.i_monk
    • It wasn't just Egypt warning them, Israel had the literal blueprint for this attack about a year prior to Hamas carrying it out. Top brass ignored it.garbage
    • https://www.nytimes.…garbage
    • I don't think this is necessarily true. Not defending the killing of civilians but they may just have much better intelligence in Lebanon than in Gaza.yuekit
  • canoe7

    Israel killed 32,700 per last Saturday.

    • Just another day at the office for the IDF.Continuity
    • Amateurs. Houthis should train them to get their numbers upGnash
    • Even putting aside the human tragedy, I don't understand why Israelis can't see that by killing so many people they're just paving the way for another attack onyuekit
    • Israel in the future.yuekit
    • You a jew, Gnash?Continuity
    • Israel will be at war to the end of times.utopian
    • Absolutely yuekit, and in the process compromising American military support, and agitating fucking Iran. #smart?canoe
    • i'm not sure what point gnash is trying to make about the houthis. what isreal has done in 5 months is many times worse. maybe he's means isreal should restrictkingsteven
    • aid and cause a famine? because isreal is doing that too. if this lasts a year it could be 10x as deadly as yemenkingsteven
    • also, isreal rightly called the famine in yemen genocide because the houthis restricted aid. the amount killed directly is a fraction of that.kingsteven
    • the point is simply that the Houthis are way better at killing and Israel can get those numbers up by copying themGnash
    • at this rate, Israel will never catch up with themGnash
    • isreal should pack up their bags and move out. that way muslims can take the land convert it back to a shithole and continue to kill each otherhotroddy
    • Isreal has directly killed ~20% as many people in 3.33% the time. This means they are 500% worse than the Houthis and as part of their direct genocidekingsteven
    • they are blocking food and aid, inviting famine which means they could equal the deaths in Yemen (on both sides) in 10 years of civil war within a year.kingsteven
    • Anyway, I don't want to play genocide top trumps. I am just expressing that Isreal are worse than the guys you are using as an example of "bad guys".kingsteven
    • Feels weird upvoting this, but fucking hell they really are just cunts of the highest order!!!Projectile
    • thats nothing compared to world war 2.milfhunter
    • A lot of Israeli are again'st it, not covered by media but there are protest in the streets.ApeRobot
    • pleas milfy never google "What is Isreal?"kingsteven
    • lol, numbers guy massaging some Houthi prostateGnash
    • lol. numbers guy 1, genocide guy 0kingsteven
    • lol Hamas rapes and burns 1200 in less than one day. So using your mathificational genocide-calculator...Gnash
    • 194 days since they started the war X 1200 rapes/burns/mutilati... oh looks like Hamas wins in the evil genocidification factor you developed here, numbers guyGnash
    • They even beat your pals the houthis :)Gnash
    • lol someone's got a Palestine-sized chip on their shoulder.Continuity
    • so what you're saying is oct 7 was part of the ongoing 194 day conflict but don't understand that 1200 is less than 32,700kingsteven
    • Just using the same math logic as you — Time:kill ratio. I threw in the rape and mutilation as you suggested one is
      ‘Worse’ than the other
      Gnash
    • @continuity. I don’t agree with you that Hamas and Palestinians are one and the same. I only have an issue with Hamas and their chumsGnash
    • you are the one comparing genocides and trying to justify the disproportionate response by comparing isreal to hamas and houthis (a bunch of absolute cunts)kingsteven
    • i'm just pointing out that you have no point to any reasonable person that may chance upon these side-notes.kingsteven
    • Ok, numbers guy. You brought up the mic-drop, genocidical mathology.Gnash
  • mort_5

    Iran now launching missiles into Israel, which will possibly trigger US action.

    • https://www.timesofi…mort_
    • i hope Israel isnt surprised by that attack.HAL9001
    • US warned them it was imminent!mort_
    • yeah, i mean, by kicking every wasps nest around, you can expect to get stung at some pointHAL9001
    • At least they’re not hiding behind their Hamas and hez-ebola skirts. Time for them to put their big-boy pants onGnash
    • Well done everyone...final step is for Americans to elect Trump so we can have Donald Trump fighting WW3yuekit
    • Don's a lover not a fighterPhanLo
    • hahaha phanloNairn
    • it was rock and fucking roll here in jerusalem.altneu
    • wtf is wrong with people? it'll all end in tearsGardener
    • Stay safe altneu!!mort_
    • Problem is that it started in tears too.Nairn
    • But my god says ...monospaced
    • so long and thank for all the fishpango
    • trigger US action like sending more weapons? the PR spin has worked, that the US is helpless to stop this. Joe doesn't give a fuck, the racist old ratbag.face_melter
    • I think Israel wanted to drag the US further into it... send troops to hit their enemies.mort_
    • I'm sorry to say that I am now 103% convinced that Israel right-wingers let Oct 7th happen, if not actively encouraged it.Nairn
    • Sacrifice a couple of kibbutzim, a mega-hippy festival, some soldiers ready to do their duty, eh, weigh up the cost. "Worth it".Nairn
  • yuekit8

    IMO it's looking more and more like Israel might be right and even that people lied or misreported what happened.

    "The photos of the scene are, to me, not consistent with an airstrike and are not consistent with claims that 500+ people were killed."

    https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/stat…

    • people spreading lies and disinformation in war? i am stunned.hans_glib
    • Yeah if this version ends up being true it's classic example of why it's bad to jump to conclusions or judge things based on which side you support.yuekit
    • shit is hitting the fan... molotows thrown at a synagoge in berlinneverscared
    • missed it.neverscared
    • Oh what a surprise. Hamas lied and everyone believed these fine peepsGnash
    • he's still going in that thread. found that the main impact site was not the car park but a grass area that IDF cropped out of satellite imagerykingsteven
    • the 'proof' against seems to be that from looking at it, the blast would have only killed 500 if they were standing in a 100m radius :-skingsteven
    • But sounds like the crater is still too small to be an Israeli strike right? Main point is about whether the damage is more consistent with a rocket.yuekit
    • FFS please do not believe tweets
      ********
    • If there is some proof it's an Israeli strike they should present it. Hamas and not Israel has access to the physical evidence.yuekit
    • It’s going to be Israel’s fault regardless. If someone breaks into your house with a gun and threatens your family, you shoot at him but miss and kill your kid_niko
    • ...the intruder will be charged with murder not you is how the argument will go._niko
    • But others will say that the intruders are the police and the house being broken into belongs to the Manson family so the shitshow continues._niko
    • How do we know this is the supposed image of the hospital?Beeswax
    • It's from Palestinian sources and there's a number of different photos, videos and satellite images.yuekit
  • Ramanisky28

    • OuchYakuZoku
    • How do you say, baby beheading, in manipulate-speak?Gnash
    • unfortunate accident?_niko
    • lesson #2: Shift the focus from the numerous firsthand witness videos detailing horrifying accounts, which enable you to form your own independent opinions.hotroddy
    • lesson #3: Instead - scrutinize the subtle biases within irrelevant legacy media and blame Western media for biased reporting.hotroddy
    • Lesson #4: Blame Elon for being a zionist. Blame Elon for being anti-Semite.hotroddy
    • you're the first one to mention elonpango
    • do you want people to blame elon?pango
    • BBC has been particularly biased on this war. It’s quite shocking to read actually just how biased the language is, and how widespread
      ********
    • roddy has it aaaallll figured out and we're all dull clowns - that's why he's slumming it on a messageboard with ~15 active users.face_melter
    • Technically, killed is a more descriptive word than died. They didn't just die of unknown cause. Media bias is real, but idk that this is the best example of itcotton
  • renderedred10

    fuck, this is close!

  • Continuity8

    lol ... and yet, you keep sending him weapons, don't you, you fucking idiot?

    https://haasie.com/3cH?success

  • prophetone11

    Hey mods - just an idea, before this place becomes Wartoday™ and starts to barf us out on the daily after dial-up it’d be ace to keep this dollar store politics content off home feed... totally heinous, the worst of human behaviour, gag me with a spoon kthx zzz

  • doesnotexist6

    this both sides argument is garbage. this is for NBQ.

    • According to the United Nations, roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing conflict since 2008, not counting the recent days.canoe
    • More statistics on Palestine vs Israeli death count - https://www.statista…canoe
    • https://www.ochaopt.…canoe
    • NBQ is garbageimbecile
    • What's your proof?palimpsest
    • Should it be equal?zaq
    • While we are at that, what's the arab population surrounding Israel vs Jews?zaq
    • fuck therm both!utopian
    • Imbecile is obsessed with meNBQ00
    • The topic is very complex. Part of why there are more deaths on Palestinian side is because they voted in Hamas in Gaza that are hiding behind civilians.NBQ00
    • Hamas rejected a two state solution. And whenever they send rockets over to the Jews you can't expect IDF to stand back and do nothing.NBQ00
    • The situation in Gaza is sad of course. But to blame it all on Israel is ignorant.NBQ00
    • Israel is an occupation, no different from what Russia was/is doing in Ukraine. If you listen to the rhetoric it's nearly the same justification and propaganda.ShenanigansTV
    • 'The topic is very complex.' If you think 64 Palestinians deaths for every 3 Israeli deaths since 2008 is complex, you're even more stupid than I thought.Continuity
  • Ramanisky26

    • Pretty much, yup.Continuity
    • Yeah it's strange. I hope they know what they're doing. Also the US wouldn't let it happen.NBQ00
    • 'Also the US wouldn't let it happen.' <— this is the most ridiculous and false statement you've made yet. The US has been letting it happen for decades.Continuity
    • You utter, utter moron.Continuity
    • Ok dude calm down. I meant let 2 million people die because Israel cut them off of infrastructure. Now stop with your insults.NBQ00
    • Stop talking, and fuck off. You're out of your league.Continuity
    • You need to get a chill-pill, baldie.NBQ00
    • USA, damned if they do (help), damned if they don’t.monospaced
    • Well, they could release the hostagesGnash
    • lol, as if releasing the hostages would end the response.fadein11
    • They’re still gonna kill all the Hamas they find but they said they’d turn on the tapsGnash
    • Fuck both of them, neither side wants peace and or prosperity.utopian
    • How can you just forget about Hollywood Vlod like that, I don't understand. Ukraine! It's still going on! All of Western civilisation is dependent on it!Khurram
    • You can't just divert all those rockets & missile defense systems to Israel, like Ukraine didn't even happen! You were begging artillery off Colombia other dayKhurram
    • It's almost as though the US has geostrategic interests in maintaining the status quo of things it maintains the status quoKhurram
    • Makes no sense! Western media?? Explication?Khurram
    • Do be quiet, dick boy.Continuity
    • "You can't just divert all those rockets & missile defense systems to Israel." Divert? We're like overstock.com when it comes to military power. But yes, we...canoe
    • ...do like to our paws in every freaking thing that goes on in the world, constantly caring what is in our best political and financial interests, not what....canoe
    • ... is best for the world or the population.canoe
    • "constantly caring what is in our best political and financial interests" do you think??? LOLKhurram
    • Wonder what would happen if a regional power, the size and strength of Russia, were to emerge in West Asia and drive the Americans out...Khurram
    • comprehensively, decisively and forever... mmmmKhurram
    • https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
  • oey_oey8

    Israel kills hostages...
    Waving white flag, bare chest, unarmed, screaming in hebrew.
    Exactly how terrorists look like.
    The disregard for human life is astonishing.
    Fucking hell.
    Even in war there's rules.

    • I was being sarcastic when i wrote the sentence "Exactly...". Just in case.oey_oey
    • well to be fair they're all Semites_niko
    • that they haven´t thrown bibi out first is as lunatic as it gets....neverscared
    • The report I read stated that one of three was executed at close range. Are Israel’s soldiers stupid?
      ********
    • Yea_niko
    • fuckYakuZoku
  • neverscared7

    Angry old men set the Middle East ablaze. The young will pay the price

    Old men start wars. Young men and women fight them. It’s a phenomenon that has broadly held true throughout history. Now, once again, in today’s violence-racked Middle East, the aggressive blundering of angry old men rains curses on the young, twisting minds, blighting lives, imperilling futures.

    From Israel, Lebanon and Palestine to Egypt, Syria, Libya and back to Turkey, such men, in thrall to worn-out ideologies and prejudices, hold leadership positions by reason of longevity and guile, not wisdom or sense. They rule by fear and division, abuse the tenets of their faith and poison the minds of children. The young pay the price.

    Take for instance Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’s expensively suited 61-year-old chief. He ordered last weekend’s atrocious onslaught on southern Israel from the security of his Qatar office. Martyrdom, it seems, is not for him – unlike the psychopathically deluded, criminally misled young men he sent to murder, maim, rape and die in the Negev.

    https://www.theguardian.com/comm…

    • Exactly. Stochastic Terror. We have a certain fucktard in this country who has been doing this ever since he came down his golden escalator.Ramanisky2
    • Well said and spot on, fucking geezers are ruining the planet._niko
    • We need Term/age limitsYakuZoku
    • we need to stop participating in the game. voting against our interests (which seems like every vote), and paying for it.doesnotexist
    • History repeating. Depressing. Well said.jagara
    • Tweets & Prayersutopian
  • palimpsest8

    Also found on the interwebsz:

    you can be anti-Hamas and pro-Palestinian

    you can be anti-MAGA and not be anti-American

    you can be anti-Likud and not be anti-Jewish

    you can be anti-ISIS and not be anti-Muslim

    • no doubt, but there's too much SJW pro-palestine goggle wearing anti-Israel sentiment here ignoring the facts.NBQ00
    • what about the other facts?uan
    • The alternative ones.palimpsest
    • yes, those too...but we could focus on the important ones first.uan
    • But that's the problem we can now choose the "facts" to justify our argument.palimpsest
    • Still, I too want hear about the other facts.palimpsest
    • Wait, you don’t know The Facts? It’s easy to tell they are the real ones because They Are Capitalised ™maikel
    • oh no, he actually said SJW ahhahhahahhaha. as if you weren't already a fucking joke.face_melter
  • Continuity8

    (opinion piece from the Washington Post, run through ClearThis to bypass the paywall)

    'We cannot stand by and watch Israel commit atrocities'

    https://clearthis.page/?u=https:…

    Hey-ho, here are some choice quotes worth paying attention to, for the binary-brained among you I know won't bother reading it:

    'Language is being hijacked. People using the terms “decolonization” and “liberation” in describing Palestinians’ struggle for human rights have had their remarks taken out of context and have been accused of championing Hamas’s brand of terrorism. This not only silences debate on the illegal, morally unjust occupation of Palestinian territory, but also implies a subconscious, irrational fear of oppressed minorities anywhere rising up and exacting violent revenge.'

    and

    'Journalists who cast themselves as arbiters of truth have amplified unverified claims, including one that 40 babies had been decapitated by Hamas militants. (As of Friday morning, there was no photographic evidence nor government confirmation to support the claim.)'

    [Gosh, really? Who'd have thought that gem was an outright porky ...]

    also

    '[...] the United States cannot stand by and allow Israel to carry out the collective punishment it has declared it will exact. It cannot stand by as Israeli officials engage in genocidal language and describe genocidal intent against Palestinians for the actions of Hamas.'

    • No critique of Hamas last Saturday for what they did by you. No critique of Hamas that they're putting their people into this situation knowing the outcomeNBQ00
    • What did they/ you think Israel would do? Just stand back? It's unfortunate what is happening now but not unexpected. And you can blame Hamas for it.NBQ00
    • But of course you won't, because you have your SJW pro-palestine goggles on. It's all Israels fault. Always.NBQ00
    • Are you talking again, idiot? You should know better.Continuity
    • There's no real discussion because all you do is just insults, not dialogue. Because you have no real arguments for what I just wrote?NBQ00
    • would doubt the intelligence agency give out a photo of the babies if its exists.... imagine the rage that would stir up...neverscared
    • There's no real discussion because:
      a) you're too stupid to have one, and;
      b) what you write is regurgitated shit from YouTube videos, and;
      c) I don't like you.
      Continuity
    • @neverscared That rage is precisely why intelligence agencies would give it out. It would absolutely guarantee almost universal western support for theirContinuity
    • ... upcoming flattening of Gaza. But, since it's nowhere out there that anyone's actually seen in the public, we're told to trust their word (propaganda).Continuity
    • You seem very much intolerant, baldie. Like those muslims living in Berlin who hate Jews and get all the benefits of EU welfare while spewing hate.NBQ00
    • flol that again? Straight out of the pages of the Daily Mail. It amazes me every single time when you demonstrate just how stupid you actually are to the world.Continuity
    • israel has alraedy full western support....staatsräs... to protect israel habeck said...they murdered young kids.. that so close to babies ...neverscared
    • staatsräson....neverscared
    • or do i miss one western country which is not condemning the hamas attack ?neverscared
    • https://www.youtube.…neverscared
    • @neverscared by "Western support", I mean support for the upcoming genocide, which some Western country are paying (weak) lip service to.Continuity
    • they have to negotiate the hostages out first...its war .. or they try to break them out ..neverscared
    • lol okContinuity
    • and thats where the western countries have skin in the game too..neverscared
    • its not funny...neverscared
    • Well, it is a bit funny that you think IL will hold off on its eradication of Gaza until they've busted out the hostages.Continuity
    • But, OK. You do you, boo-boo.Continuity
    • i don´t want u to hold off anything.. not only bust out hostages.. but take out hamas high circles down to the simple foot terrorists...neverscared
    • i guess thats what staatsräson means...neverscared
    • harming civilians is a crime everywhere !neverscared
    • Of course it’s a crime everywhere. Won’t stop IL, though. Watch.Continuity
    • Hey! You can't fight in here! This is the war thread!Khurram
    • ha!_niko