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  • ideaist-4

    Found this insightful and clear, albeit a bit of a "downer", perhaps:

    Smart dude AND his smart wife:

    https://bretweinstein.net/podcas…

    Knowledge is power.

    : )

    • Sinister eye brows though, eh?ideaist
    • C H Y N N A L A Butopian
    • I don't know how accurate any of this is. Weinstein says 90% chance it escaped from lab...based on what? I like Bill Maher but he has a history of dabbling inyuekit
    • pseudoscience from time to time.yuekit
    • Weinstein says diseases can jump from animals to humans but human to human transmission is suspicious...where does he think SARS 1, MERS, Ebola, H1N1 came from?yuekit
    • These are valid questions; i think it's just another perspective on things from 2 well educated folks.ideaist
    • smart guys BUT covids was found in blood samples in the US in Oct, and in Italy around the same time.pr2
    • and oh my God, the interviewer is a moron of comic proportions.pr2
    • Well you know, it could have leaked from a lab slightly earlier. Or even a lab in the USA, which I'm sure China would like to believe :)yuekit
    • https://www.thedaily…mort_
    • Weinstein is a IDW hack. https://www.nature.c…garbage
    • Virus leaking from a lab is definitely not impossible, it's happened before. But you gotta ask why he feels the need to go into misleading stuff like pretendingyuekit
    • Tough crowd.ideaist
    • a virus mutating and becoming more virulent is abnormal. Didn't that exact same scenario happen with Spanish flu?yuekit
    • he talked to Yuri Deigin in june 2020 about it:
      https://www.youtube.…
      uan
    • https://yurideigin.m…

      the medium article about the lab hypothesis
      uan
    • Yuri Deigin doesn't think it's a bioweapon from the lab. it could also be natural mutations in the context of population of bats and pangolines kept in the lab.uan
    • I thought this article was good, gives fair consideration to the lab theory while also not overselling it.yuekit
    • https://www.cnet.com…yuekit
    • The thing is, viruses mutate and recombine all the time in nature. And there are basically endless ways a virus could spread from animals to humans undetected.yuekit
    • SARS 1 for instance is believed to have originated in bats in Yunnan, China. It then somehow popped up in a city a day's drive away (just as far away as Wuhan).yuekit
    • That's why I think most scientists will say natural origin is most likely while not ruling out the lab leak. Because there are a small number of labs, butyuekit
    • millions of potential ways it could spread naturally...through farming, animal trade, markets etc.yuekit
    • And the reality is we don't know how many coronaviruses exist, nor is there much visibility into which viruses exist in which animal populations.yuekit
    • Wish he wore his bandana.PhanLo
    • https://en.wikipedia… its happened before, it'll happen againkingsteven
    • ^ was hoping that would anchor to the "laboratory accidents" section of the SARS articlekingsteven
    • It will eventually come out that Covid-19 was developed in a lab in Wuhan and accidentally got out to the public. The cover-up by China is the real crime.utopian
    • The WHO is visiting the Wuhan Institute of Virology today. Weather forecast, foggy
      https://twitter.com/…
      yuekit
    • I think if it was developed in Wuhan, its fairly likely to be research funded and authorised by the US... I doubt we'll ever find out.kingsteven
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  • Chimp0

    Is anyone here who’s had Covid still experiencing long term effects?

    I still don’t feel 100% after having it in March.
    I wake up with a bubbling sound coming from my lungs which means I still have a small amount of fluid there.

    I was 39 when I had it and in good shape running 10k every week.

    • Damn. Sorry to hear it. Just curious, how loud is that sound?nb
    • have you been back in about the lung fluid thing?Fax_Benson
    • I had it in November. After 2 months, I still get tired immediately if I walk fast or climb some stairs.pablo28
    • It's not too loud but it's noticeable. I went to see the doctor before Christmas and they said it's taking longer than usual to clear up.Chimp
    • @pablo28 same here, but strangely enough I'm not too bad while running. It seems to be the sudden change in activity that gets me.Chimp
    • sorry to hear, Chimp. Def get it checked out by a doc; could be unrelated to covid?Krassy
  • Krassy0

    Dr. Anthony Fauci: The Highest Paid Employee In The Entire U.S. Federal Government (salary of $417,608)

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ada…

    • Likely less then the private sector.eryx
    • To mask or not mask that is the question.utopian
    • pay me that salary, and I'll advise you on mask or no mask, plus I might throw in a "wash your hands" and "6 ft social distance" for free. LOLKrassy
    • he has a strange uniform though..neverscared
    • it's virus-proofKrassy
    • He could make more in the private sector for sure.OP31
    • @eryx @OP31 does he not want to work in the private sector and make more, if that is true to be the case?Krassy
    • or is he maybe an overpaid bureaucrat?Krassy
    • How should I know, I don’t know the guyOP31
    • Don’t see a problem with him being paid a large amount. Would you want someone making 50k with all those responsibilities?OP31
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  • Krassy3

    Dave Chappelle Tests Positive for Covid After String of Live Club Shows

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/co…

    • grimes looks like a blow up dolldorf
    • A doll who loves blowmaquito
  • shapesalad-2

    USA Gov fact sheet on evidence of Lab origin of Coronavirus.

    https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet…

    I think it simply comes down to providing evidence that it really came from animal to human. Where's the evidence?

    Why weren't bats and pangolins culled?

    Norway culled millions of mink after they caught coronavirus. Why, to stop it mutating into an even deadlier more viral version, and to stop non infected humans catching it from mink. Also why did the mink catch the virus so easily? Mink are often used in virus lab experiments.

    Meanwhile over in China, are we to believer they think it's ok a worldwide pandemic causing virus that they claim has origins in bats / pangolins means it's totally ok to let said bats and pangolins of Wuhan wander around in their merry ways. While festering a deadly global pandemic virus that could mutate into a far more viral or deadlier version. While allowing future opportunities for it to crossover into humans. Why go to all the effort of stopping a pandemic at such economic detriment when you leave the source free to wander around?

    • *believe. typo.shapesalad
    • Might as well cull Brits, South Africans, and Bavarians, too, by that logic. Gotta stop this thing from mutating!

      Oops, too late.
      Continuity
    • lol, did you make this up? Do you imagine pangolins and bats just wander freely around China contacting people? Wow.monospaced
    • Are you really implying that bats and pangolins are just strolling through streets, all with deadly viruses, and people are what ... hugging them?monospaced
    • So seems like the basic takeaway here is...we don't know. I don't think either possibility can be ruled out. However I wouldn't necessarily take any ofyuekit
    • the things you mentioned as proof of anything. What would culling bats look like, some guy going into every cave in China with a flamethrower?yuekit
    • TIL bats wander around merrilynb
    • Sweet, sweet free pangolin hugs.Continuity
    • If you look into the history of other diseases (such as the original SARS I posted about below) you'll see that while scientists believe they came from animals,yuekit
    • the exact way this happened is still unknown in most cases. Ebola has been around since the 70s and they still don't know how it spread from bats to humans.yuekit
    • mono, not implying bats and pangolins are wandering around, but if a deadly world pandemic virus came from one, surely first thing you do is eliminate theshapesalad
    • potential for future animal>human source infections.shapesalad
    • you LITERALLY said it thoughmonospaced
    • It's transferred from bats to humans via bats genitals coming into contact with human saliva...microkorg
    • ...there's a reason bats like to come out at night cos it's when humans sleep. They fly into homes, find their human target then...microkorg
    • ...dip their balls into the open human mouth as he/she snores away completely oblivious. - Source 'Batty Times'.microkorg
    • The thought of someone getting teabagged by a bat made me giggle.Continuity
    • Norway?Nairn
  • Continuity2

    Ooooooh, goodie.

    'New COVID variant found in Bavaria'

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-ne…

  • Krassy3

    Switzerland to Hold Referendum on Covid-19 Lockdown

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/swi…

    • works well in an educated society, in a society full of yokels and conspiracy theorists, not so much_niko
    • the guys that initiated that referendum are the conspiracy theory fans...they don‘t believe in the virus.uan
  • _niko4

    new conspiratory theory making the rounds

    mask-wearing and lockdowns and a curb on social gatherings has done fuck all for Covid 19 but yet it's completely eradicated the Flu this year?

    something, somehing wake up sheeple!

    • Sure...done fuck all here in Melbourne.
      Where we have ZERO cases.
      BusterBoy
  • nb2

    Recently a member of QBN shared two charts of numbers (of COVID cases vs deaths) and claimed that this was proof of herd immunity. Another member argued that it's because doctors and nurses are better at treating COVID now.

    For the record, no one from the CDC has claimed we are anywhere near herd immunity. Dr Fauci has specifically said that herd immunity does not exist anywhere at this time.

    I'm going to use the numbers from NY because COVID has been in this state the longest and because we might assume that the northeast contains reasonable averages because of the high number of hospitals and researchers centered here.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interact…

    These charts get updated, so this post will become outdated. I can't predict the future. As of Jan 14, 2021 cases are WAY UP in NY and deaths are lower than April 2020 when Covid deaths in NY peaked. However, while deaths are lower than the peak, they are much higher than the summer. And rising.

    Now if you look at just two more charts, the picture starts to become clearer. First is daily tests: way up. This could explain why cases are way up. As COVID is often mild or asymptomatic, more testing would result in higher case numbers. This is why people look at deaths vs cases.

    Next look at hospitalizations. These are way up, not as high as the peak in April '20, but still much higher than the peak. We currently are hospitalizing about TWENTY TIMES the number of people that we did in the summer.

    More testing does not cause more hospitalizations, nor does it cause more deaths. Yet these are higher, and rising.

    SUMMARY:
    1. Case numbers in NY are skyrocketing, but so is testing. If we ignore deaths and hospitalizations, we might mistakenly believe that the COVID situation is improving. It is not.

    2. Hospitalizations and deaths are much higher than last summer. They are also trending upwards, which is very scary. It means things are bad and getting worse.

    3. Hospitalizations are much higher than deaths (relative to earlier numbers.) This suggests we may be getting better at treatment of serious cases.

    These numbers could never on their own prove the cause. However, it is very clear THAT HERD IMMUNITY DOES NOT EXIST AT THIS TIME.

    Please continue to take precautions. Meet people outside, stay 6 feet or more apart, wear masks, wash your hands. Stay safe out there. Keep your head about you.

    • TL;DR... there is no herd immunity. The situation is bad and getting worse. Take appropriate precautions.nb
    • whoops a typo: regarding hospitalizations it should say "not as high as the peak in April '20, but still much higher than the summer."nb
    • for the record, the deaths are lower because of improved treatment over the last few months, confirmed by Northwell Health front linemonospaced
    • Yes but by how much? Looking at the charts above and knowing that hospitalizations precede deaths by a week or two, it’s not looking goodnb
    • Most likely, dead people are above 70 years old, and people with co-morbidity. Obese, diabetes, respiratory issues etc....ApeRobot
    • the rate of death is lower than it was in the beginning, because treatments and procedures have been refined and improved over the months, ffsmonospaced
  • grafician1

    "Chinese Covid-19 vaccine far less effective than initially claimed in Brazil, sparking concerns"

    "A leading Chinese Covid-19 vaccine developed by Sinovac Biotech was just 50.38% effective in late-stage trials in Brazil, significantly lower than earlier results showed, according to a statement published by the government of Sao Paulo Tuesday.

    While the number exceeds the threshold required for regulatory approval, it falls far below the 78% previously announced, raising questions as to the veracity of the data and fueling skepticism over the apparent lack of transparency regarding Chinese vaccines."

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/…

    • Does it have elephant ivory mixed into the vaccine or shark fins?utopian
    • Bear bile should work!Gnash
    • Bat piss from the bats that started it all?microkorg
    • Made in China, what would you expect?grafician
  • Continuity0

    What a depressing article. But, I guess this is where we are now. I guess it also explains the really high number of sugar babies I've seen on Tinder and OK Cupid in the last couple of months.

    'Jobless, Selling Nudes Online and Still Struggling

    OnlyFans, a social media platform that allows people to sell explicit photos of themselves, has boomed during the pandemic. But competition on the site means many won’t earn much.'

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/…

    • I don’t have a moral objection to sex work, so that part isn’t depressing to me.nb
    • What’s depressing is “a mother of 3 earns $13.30 an hour as a paramedic in northern Ohio, barely enough to cover her bills.” :(nb
    • I have no moral objection, either. It's the fact it's an act of desperation that gets to me.Continuity
    • The fact that the choice is show your tits, or don't eat that month. Awful.Continuity
    • "Sex work" hides and legitimizes a lot of horrible shit.i_monk
    • I'd imagine merely creating an OnlyFans account and posting mediocre content is the the same as starting a YT and posting mediocre content...microkorg
    • ..it doesn't guarantee followers or income.microkorg
    • if you're a girl under 25 and you can do something as useless as clip your toenails for simps online you can be rich._niko
  • Gardener1

    At today's pro-Trump protest in Prague, some demonstrators wore a six-pointed star badge with the word "Neočkovaný" (Unvaccinated), to express disagreement with the vaccination plan.
    Jews of the Reich and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia were forced to wear the distinctive yellow badge on their clothing by order of the German authorities.

    https://blisty.cz/art/102411-obs…

    • :( A friends dad had to wear a badje just like that with the word Jude (Jew) on it. He was sent to Bergen-Belsen. He survived and is alive to tell the tale.mort_
    • I'm imagining him coming across this in the news. Hope he doesn't!mort_
    • The world is overdue for another World War.utopian
    • @utopian - would you like to subscribe to my newsletter?Nairn
    • Stupidity is the most contagious of all diseasesGnash
  • Ramanisky24

    Members of congress were moved to a secure room in the Capitol as the insurrection was underway ... Lisa Blunt Rochester was handing out masks but these Covidiot Q-Anon MAGA’ts refused.

    • Do they even realise it’s to protect other people? So obnoxious. :-(mort_
  • renderedred3

    here in israel, we just finished a 2 week light lockdown and now it's 3 weeks hardcore lockdown started midnight.

    • It’s rough. Is essential retail open?mort_
    • yes, but no traffic. streets are empty. no schools.renderedred
    • i am lucky, i have a little 24hr supermarket around the corner.renderedred
    • Thank goodness for small mercies.mort_
  • hans_glib5

  • NBQ001

    What’s wrong with people? Thousands were having a rave party for days in France and then started a riot when police showed up.

    Do these cunts really have to party during these times and then bitch about it when being stopped?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-e…

    • Hormonesinstrmntl
    • and the answer is: yes.
      in their minds.
      oey_oey
    • Personally think it should be allowed. Allowed to travel to remote party site. Party as much as possible. Not allowed out. A prison could be good venue.shapesalad
    • There is going to be a whooole generation of kids that will have never been to a party. Scarytoemaas
  • Continuity0

    I've been doing routine PUVA therapy for my psoriasis at the hospital 3 times a week for the last couple of weeks, and I've had two of the brain-tickler Covid-19 tests (fun; they make your eyes water, and — eventually — sneeze) and one antibody test.

    All three came out negative, thankfully.

    The restrictions and precautions work, people. Follow them.

    • as long as you don't live in shitholes (like the u.s. and britain) people are pretty much civilised and follow the rules.renderedred
    • Germans got complacent, mate. The number of times I've had to tell a cunt behind me in a queue to back the fuck up in the last couple of months. Ugh.Continuity
    • I thought Germans were culturally known for following rules. Is that changing?nb
    • Seems to be. German society's been infected with the same sort of mouth-breathers that Q Anon are.Continuity
    • Not sure why you're calling the UK a shithole, renderered - most people I see here not following rules aren't actually British.Nairn
    • Whoa! Slow down there, turbo!scruffics
    • @nairn, i was joking man. also how do you distinguish british? must know!renderedred
    • They're the ones not wearing masks, obvs.Nairn
  • nb3

    After the event attracted national news coverage, the Whitestone Republican Club issued a defiant statement on Facebook.

    “Adults have the absolute right to make their own decisions, and clearly many chose to interact like normal humans and not paranoid zombies in hazmat suits,” the club wrote. “This is for some reason controversial to the people who believe it's their job to tell us all what to do.”

    LOL fucking snowflakes

    • Selfish, ignorant, arrogant American cunts. Fuck em' let them and their families suffer and die.utopian
    • “Hazmat suits” good grief you bunch of babiesnb