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Hey, so I was thinkign about pursuing an MBA in design leadership to learn about the business end of things, and wondered if any of you had any related expereinces.
Maybe you've gone to one of these schools or know soemone who has? I'm looking into it at the moment and could use some advice.
Also, I don't know if this is even a thing, but I'd be interested in schools which might give me some sense of how to apply design to the political sphere. I.e., being a designer in teh world of politics and helping to affect change that way.
i'd say real world experience is worth 10x what an MBA can offer. Not to mention it will save you about 120K.
it sounds like you are looking more for a specific path that the new degree can point you to. i'd say just try and find an area/political point of view you really feel strongly about and just go and try to get work in that area. if it means creating concept projects to try and focus your portfolio to what you really want to get into, then do that.
my 2¢, as worthless as it is.
+1 for Real World Experience.
Try to wangle your way to intern for a company, shadow someone or offer to work for free for X months.
Definitely great to have real world experience, but not everyone can shadow a leader in business, and even then it's going to be anecdotal learning at best.
If it's business knowledge and theory that you're after, why not pursue a traditional MBA (if you need the credentials) and apply the learning to your specialty? The ability to apply the theory to your day to day work (much like being a designer) is where the value is.
I've been looking into either a Master's degree or an MBA, 100% online b/c there's no way I can be a full time student. I can't find many examples of a design related MBA and to be honest, a design related MBA sounds funny to me, I think a traditional MBA makes more sense.
The trouble I'm finding is that after having been working for 15 years, most Master's programs seem rudimentary at best. I've been researching the teachers at these programs and I have more professional experience than them so I'm conflicted there. I also researched graduates of these programs and I haven't seen anyone that's wowed me with some grand title at Google or anywhere...
To be honest, I'm turned away from an MBA b/c I started taking practice GRE and GMAT tests and I remember why I went into design in the first place, fuck those standardized tests!
- This is the exact position I'm in-lot of life experience to start in on a degree that more or less just formalizes it. I want to be sure I'm learning.cannonball1978
- Have you taken any sample GMAT tests, jesus fucking christ - that limited my options for me, no thanks. http://bit.ly/2lsVXh…whatthefunk
- wrong link, this one http://bit.ly/2mKN2s…whatthefunk
Many MBA's will require some real world experience anyway.
I'd be cautious about getting a specific degree like this unless it was taught at a very reputable business school. MBA's are a dime a dozen.
I'd all ask yourself if you are wanting to run a design business, which means all business and no design (which a regular MBA would work) or if you think that you want to design and run it to, which usually won't work.
Just be careful that you aren't just thinking it would bring you more money. Design and business are separate things.
Where it would be helpful is if you are starting your own business. If that's the case, then I'd think it might be worth it....if you are very young. Otherwise, 2-3 years running your biz will give you a lot more than a degree (that no one will ever care about because you are the boss).
It's a lot of money. Determine how that investment will have an ROI that makes sense.
Stanford has some sort of business/design programme, though I'm not certain it's an MBA per se.
- Not an MBA, although if you do go to Stanford's GSB program you would have the opportunity to take classes. Very cool program started by David Kelley from IDEO.ronburgundy
- No degree is offered by this program. You can take courses or if you are lucky earn a fellowship.cannonball1978
"The trouble I'm finding is that after having been working for 15 years, most Master's programs seem rudimentary at best. "
This is not the case for an MBA - your real world experience isn't equivalent.
I know you're an old fart like I am, so I literally cannot see the point.
Academia's worthwhile for research and development, or consolidation in a high art profession. Design isn't, in my mind, a high art profession for most people. Not to say it's any less valuable, enriching or even profitable.
It's just not a doctor, scientist, ridculo-artist or even a good lawyer.
i just don't get why you'd bother.
Which is to say — whatever it is you want this to help you achieve in life, do it actual.
It ain't rocket science. it's hard work, competence and luck.
books are cheaper
My buddy did a MFA Design for Social Innovation at SVA http://dsi.sva.edu/program/curri… - he's now a high school design teacher in NYC and having 10 years of professional experience prior to teaching qualified him for a considerable pay increase.
5 years ago I went to a Carnegie Mellon open house and after they looked at my portfolio they stated that I have more experience than the curriculum and teachers combined and it would be a waste of time. I'm still conflicted but want to do an online degree b/c as a UXer I think that would be a great way to earn a degree.
Here's a list of some UX/Designer related programs of study around the world. Recently I've been speaking to Kent State and Bentley University who both offer an online Master of Science with a Concentration in User Experience Design or Master's in Human Factors in Information Design
I've learned that there's no point in taking an online MBA program as the best part of getting an MBA is networking and building relationships with other students. My company will cover my education so I'm seriously considering it...
List of Programs of Study:
You either design and create a world of products that are so desirable that folks want it - be it actually physical products, content, a brand expressed through products(hello kitty for example) or some sort of intellectual property/service that is beneficial to other businesses (pre thought out package of info, like a set of consultancy workshops).
You offer a service.
And as well all know. Service sucks.
You can intellectualise design etc till you're blue in the face. End of the day if you're offering a service, and more than anything budget and how much of a dick the client is determines it all. No MBA in design will ever change that.
I remember reading Judith Williams 'Decoding advertisements' when at uni, years later, at an ad agency, being offered up a stupid ill conceived scamp by a pair of hipster douchbag 'creatives', I chirped in with some intellectual theory based on Judith's observations, only to be met with looks of confusion on the creative teams faces. You can wise up all you like, but you're still going to deal with idiots and clients...
best go your own route, be the change you want to see. Create the next Ogivily, or the next Apple or the next Hello Kitty etc..
It's a great idea if you want to teach... outside of that you don't need 'credentials' other than proof of ability (aka- a portfolio of work) (and maybe some references to prove you're reliable / not a piece of a shit).
Tenure is a nice thing... can't get it if you don't have some fancy pieces of paper and a lifelong student loan to prove you deserve it.
All that being said... if you're not footing the bill (maybe like whatthefunk your Company will pay) then go for it. :)