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- bainbridge0
The blueprint Theresa found said "Bernard" but in the flashback Ford had to think of a name when he came alive?
- we couldn't see what it said on blueprint. we saw 'dolores' though on the other onebrandelec
- Yeah I never saw it say Bernard...sarahfailin
- bainbridge0
So who's the third guy in the photo with Ford and Arnold?
- I assume that's Bernard, maybe??Ramanisky2
- ford's dadbrandelec
- ford / ford's dad / bernarnoldbrandelec
- ^ Apparently this.ETM
- Pic looked photoshopped from space.sarahfailin
- Ramanisky20
also, are there multiple Bernards or hosts ??
because he was with Theresa while speaking to Elsie on the phone and moments later Elsie is assaulted or killed by Bernard during his 'down memory lane' trip last episode.
- Beeswax0
I began to think every host is based on someone real.
So William might be based on MIB's youth, when he first came to park, and they can be in the same timeline now.
This was also what that Board girl had said. The goal of Delos is not to entertain people, it is to collect information about people.
Hosts are collecting this info from guests for years and certain new hosts are maybe being built on that.In the future they can replace the real ones in real life with their own clones. Maybe they already did.
- always thought hector was based on loganbrandelec
- Info like: penis size, sexual endurance, fetishes, left-handed v right handed, etc.sarahfailin
- Ramanisky20
- yeah that's the biggest question of all :)sted
- They showed Delores with mechanical parts too. When Logan stabbed her.BabySnakes
- She was the first host I thought.monospaced
- Yeah, she is one of the original's still kicking about. Even though they said the first ones were not as life like, yet she is.ETM
- she's an iPhone 1.0 with a 10.1.1 iOSRamanisky2
- I assumed they would transfer host data to upgraded body.BabySnakes
- ^ That's possible. I'm not sure "original host" was clarified to mean personality or physical body.ETM
- so what if logan left that photo when he was in westworld at the first time? and it triggered a memory in dolores dads?sted
- scarabin1
what
the
fuck
- helloeatbreathedrive2
The last two episodes got way deeper than I'd have expected, but damn I was totally blown away by what's been happening through the end of season 1, only one more episode to go. One of those very unique shows really, and I can't imagine casting anyone other than Hopkins himself for Ford. Damn.
- ok_not_ok3
So Billy ≠ MiB?
- yuekit2
- After reading this thread and on Reddit I guess everyone saw the twist coming, but still well executedyuekit
- <Good old Scanners gif. So useful.CyBrainX
- yeah seeing the twists coming, but still a damn entertaining show. I think mostly because of Hopkins.inteliboy
- Some good writing too. The idea of him achieving full awareness only after he rejected his past as a lie was pretty powerful.yuekit
- And he's been on that same path, coming to that same realisation, many time. RESET!robthelad
- scarabin0
i dunno, 40 years doesn' seem long enough for EVERYONE to forget what arnold looked like. surely someone would point out that bernard is the spitting image of our glorious founder?
- And we saw a picture of young Ford and Arnold. Arnold wasn't black anyway.
https://assets3.thri…ETM - Photoshoppedyuekit
- Will have to go back and watch - who was looking at that photo in that shot? Was it Bernard? That might explain why the 3rd person "wasn't there".bulletfactory
- ^ It was Bernard.Ramanisky2
- Jackass' lawyers couldn't find anything about him, and it looks like Dolores (and Yul Brynner?) may have massacred the original staff in the past.i_monk
- And we saw a picture of young Ford and Arnold. Arnold wasn't black anyway.
- reanimate0
What if everyone on the show are robots? Robots took over a long time ago and started running the park. I'm surprise this isn't a theory yet.
- i_monk0
"Bernard Lowe is an anagram of Arnold Weber."
- ETM0
I thought William and MiB were the same as well, until the last episode.
William and MiB seem to be in the same timeline. William and Dolores are in the present since they arrived at the town that Ford is currently excavating for the new narrative, and it was filled in and abandoned.
MiB says that he has been coming for 30 years. He said he killed the home steader (Maeve) a year ago to "feel something". In present timeline Maeve has been the Madam for a year. So that jives with current timeline.
- i want to see MiB killing Willyboysted
- It's not different timelines. They get reset all the time that's all.monospaced
- Ummm... yeah. If you mean the hosts, we know. We're talking about the "REAL" people.ETM
- Whether William is the MiB 30 years prior etc. and we are seeing how he became the present one etc.ETM
- I don't think we are. And you were taking about Maeve too.monospaced
- The last episode only strengthened the William is the MiB theory for me.robthelad
- MiB was an early investor and I believe is the 3rd guy in the photo, besides Arnold and Ford.ETM
- @mono - What's hard to follow? Talking about Maeve as an event marker, not as a real person. If you can't follow, then please just don't comment.ETM
- cruddlebub0
me and a buddy have been sparring with ideas, and the only real inkling we have both come to agree on is that there are two (possibly more) timelines, and that william and MiB are the same person. I didnt want it to have more than one timeline and there may not be, its just things seem to adding up.
i also think that there are two fords, one a robot who we see all the time and the real one in the middle of the maze...
i've tried not to go too mad trying to figure things out but its one hell of a headfuck.
- scarabin2
i thought the minotaur was a nice reference