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- teh0
Just started watching. Couple questions.
Delores kills fly. Is she self-aware or was that programmed?
Wild Bill zips himself up. Why? I thought they were all 3D printed?
Are all those bodies 3D printed?
- scarabin0
i don't get why mib didn't just lift the noose of his head instead of the ridiculous "get the knife" thing that nearly cost him his life. his hands were together but he had full use of his arms and fingers...
i thionk that scene could have been thought out better or just omitted entirely
- I thought about this too... my only guess was the noose was actually a tied knot? (would be nice to have him pull on it to show that / eliminate confusion)PonyBoy
- Maybe it was knotted up tight behind his head, he tugged on it & maybe felt he couldn't loosen it enough before Sarah Jessica Parker decided to bolt.Ramanisky2
- yeah, nooses are slipknots but it's all a minor point anywayscarabin
- ^ ramanisky2 SJP! ahahaha :) was thinking exactly the same thing at that momenthelloeatbreathedrive
- He'd have to hold the knot with one hand and loosen the loop with the other, which I don't think he could've with wrists tied.i_monk
- Ramanisky20
- yeah that's the biggest question of all :)sted
- They showed Delores with mechanical parts too. When Logan stabbed her.BabySnakes
- She was the first host I thought.monospaced
- Yeah, she is one of the original's still kicking about. Even though they said the first ones were not as life like, yet she is.ETM
- she's an iPhone 1.0 with a 10.1.1 iOSRamanisky2
- I assumed they would transfer host data to upgraded body.BabySnakes
- ^ That's possible. I'm not sure "original host" was clarified to mean personality or physical body.ETM
- so what if logan left that photo when he was in westworld at the first time? and it triggered a memory in dolores dads?sted
- scarabin0
i dunno, 40 years doesn' seem long enough for EVERYONE to forget what arnold looked like. surely someone would point out that bernard is the spitting image of our glorious founder?
- And we saw a picture of young Ford and Arnold. Arnold wasn't black anyway.
https://assets3.thri…ETM - Photoshoppedyuekit
- Will have to go back and watch - who was looking at that photo in that shot? Was it Bernard? That might explain why the 3rd person "wasn't there".bulletfactory
- ^ It was Bernard.Ramanisky2
- Jackass' lawyers couldn't find anything about him, and it looks like Dolores (and Yul Brynner?) may have massacred the original staff in the past.i_monk
- And we saw a picture of young Ford and Arnold. Arnold wasn't black anyway.
- Ramanisky20
also, are there multiple Bernards or hosts ??
because he was with Theresa while speaking to Elsie on the phone and moments later Elsie is assaulted or killed by Bernard during his 'down memory lane' trip last episode.
- reanimate0
What if everyone on the show are robots? Robots took over a long time ago and started running the park. I'm surprise this isn't a theory yet.
- sted-1
Something isn't right:
In the first episode Theresa and Sizemore talks about MIB fucking Dolores:"But does anyone truly want that?
Do you want to think that your husband is really fucking that beautiful girl"And in the current episode MiB is saying that his wife killed herself.
wtf?- She killed herself because he was cheating on her maybe?monospaced
- wow makes sense, I didn't think of thatsted
- He said she killed herself because he had become a horrible, erratic person. She never knew what she would get. He did good deeds to wall of the person heETM
- really was. So afterward he came back to the game, killed Maeve and her girl to see "what he would feel". He said he felt nothing.ETM
- The motivations were literally told to the audience by MiB talking to William.ETM
- ETM0
I thought William and MiB were the same as well, until the last episode.
William and MiB seem to be in the same timeline. William and Dolores are in the present since they arrived at the town that Ford is currently excavating for the new narrative, and it was filled in and abandoned.
MiB says that he has been coming for 30 years. He said he killed the home steader (Maeve) a year ago to "feel something". In present timeline Maeve has been the Madam for a year. So that jives with current timeline.
- i want to see MiB killing Willyboysted
- It's not different timelines. They get reset all the time that's all.monospaced
- Ummm... yeah. If you mean the hosts, we know. We're talking about the "REAL" people.ETM
- Whether William is the MiB 30 years prior etc. and we are seeing how he became the present one etc.ETM
- I don't think we are. And you were taking about Maeve too.monospaced
- The last episode only strengthened the William is the MiB theory for me.robthelad
- MiB was an early investor and I believe is the 3rd guy in the photo, besides Arnold and Ford.ETM
- @mono - What's hard to follow? Talking about Maeve as an event marker, not as a real person. If you can't follow, then please just don't comment.ETM
- yuekit2
- After reading this thread and on Reddit I guess everyone saw the twist coming, but still well executedyuekit
- <Good old Scanners gif. So useful.CyBrainX
- yeah seeing the twists coming, but still a damn entertaining show. I think mostly because of Hopkins.inteliboy
- Some good writing too. The idea of him achieving full awareness only after he rejected his past as a lie was pretty powerful.yuekit
- And he's been on that same path, coming to that same realisation, many time. RESET!robthelad
- i_monk0
"Bernard Lowe is an anagram of Arnold Weber."
- freedom-3
It's weird what people post on youtube.
- narcissist fuck witinteliboy
- what's this generation called ?Milan
- ^ the Selfie Stick GenRamanisky2
- what is the point of doing this?prophetone
- i cannotBrokenHD
- cruddlebub0
me and a buddy have been sparring with ideas, and the only real inkling we have both come to agree on is that there are two (possibly more) timelines, and that william and MiB are the same person. I didnt want it to have more than one timeline and there may not be, its just things seem to adding up.
i also think that there are two fords, one a robot who we see all the time and the real one in the middle of the maze...
i've tried not to go too mad trying to figure things out but its one hell of a headfuck.
- Ramanisky20
Anyone else notice the Westworld mark/brand/id keeps changing within the show itself. Noticed a new one last episode on the glass doors in one scene.
- I was wondering that myself. Different between some background screens/displays, doors, misc. items etc.ETM
- Timelines!tank02
- The show logo is different too.monospaced
- After the last episode, I see no evidence of more than one timeline.ETM
- scarabin2
i thought the minotaur was a nice reference
- freedom1
Spoiler alert:
What does Ford gain from a blood sacrifice?
- Theresa as a hostbrandelec
- Yeah, thinking Host Theresa will make an appearance next episode.DRIFTMONKEY
- Yeah it was pretty clear he meant her death to be replaced with a replicant.... er, I mean host.ETM