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- utopian5
- Redefines and refines rules. Science bitches! Never fails. :)monospaced
- sofas-3
This thread is a pro-science circle jerk.
I wish science would be bashed like religion is in its parallel thread, because I think the differences aren't that big, both-
1) Institutionally (see copyrighted articles, fake results, tenure, publish or perish, student slavery, power hierarchy, industry ties, how knowledge revolutions were treated etc.) and
2) Fundamentally (see induction / deduction etc.).Of course like a religion and a faith, the institution and fundamentals are intertwined.
Atheism and science have great PR, look at the world becoming secular. Schools teach different religions and heritages highlighting the fact that it's about faith and belief (and often making kids hate them because many learn to hate what they were coerced to learn in school), but philosophy of science? Nah, just trust the priest in the white coat, dumbing down the scriptures so you can feel involved and safe.
- the intiial reasoning for this thread has long-since departed. It's now literally just a thread where people post 'sciencey' things.detritus
- Besides, we have other scientists to bash each New Science critically — I'm not sure how well-placed many of us are here to do that in any worthwhile sense.detritus
- What do you suggest schools do - give valuable time up to unfoundable fantasies about Atlantis or færies?detritus
- I mean I too post cool sciency things and enjoy everyone else's posts, just saying it would be refreshing to see critical things too :)sofas
- This is what I dislike most about religionists - their simplistic unquestioning view that science isn't internally critical. That's the whole point of science.detritus
- Religion tends towards black and white, whereas science (when done propa) is a myriad of shades of grey, and that encourages more questioning..detritus
- it's not science you have a problem but the way in which it's (ab)used. as det says, it's not an absolute but is often referenced as such in order to deceiveFax_Benson
- but there's definitely a kind blind faith tech worship that isn't remotely healthy.Fax_Benson
- @detritus I agree. In an absolute sense I say don't coerce education, in a relative sense I say teach being critical of science's fundamentals and institutionssofas
- @Fax to a degree I agree with you, but empiricism should be criticised as wellsofas
- I think there is a general confusion between the criticism of the Scientific Method and criticism of Scientism (the blind belief in the infalability...Morning_star
- ...of Science). FYI this thread was created because of my assertion in the Religion thread that Scientism has all the negative characteristics found in...Morning_star
- ...Religions. IMorning_star
- @Morning totally. Checked out the first post on this thread "Is not a belief system."
:)sofas - considering the definition of science is to constantly question and revise, I'd say the differences are so vast, that there's no fair comparisonmonospaced
- common misconception is that science is some kind of book of rules, but it's just a process of figuring things out, it's a way of processing realitymonospaced
- Morning_star clarifies it well with his Scientific Method vs. Scientism comparison.monospaced
- You really should start an anti-science thread where you can bash on it. Should go over really well :)monospaced
- true @mono, the comparison to religion was a bit of a provocation, but there are similaritiessofas
- Just scrolled through the first couple pages of this thread, the beginning of it was more open endedsofas
- I'll consider it mono! :)sofas
- the comparison to religion is hilariously ironic, when religious people are using similarity to religion as an insult to sciencemonospaced
- ^nice guys defusing my anger by agreeing with me, wtf :)sofas
- yea mono, don't think I ever encountered that, I think it's more like they say "things aren't as straightforward" like "god put fossils here to test our faith"sofas
- specific to that example, it really is scary the excuses they'll offer to discredit any affront to their faith in creationism, putting word's in god's mouth!monospaced
- rest assured sofas, there are in fact hordes of new scientists that dedicate their lives to questioning and/or improving upon the fundamentalsmonospaced
- and they will continue to do so, forever (hopefully)monospaced
- think of it like this ... IF there's ever going to be a breakthrough in human knowledge, it's most likely coming from the sciences, not a religionmonospaced
- mono I think you're right, you might back that up by saying "look how easily and quickly the quantum theory was adopted compared to the Copernican revolution"..sofas
- ..but there is still room for so much more, I think the power structures are constricting in a similar way to the times of the Copernican revolutionsofas
- Quantum theory was easily and quickly adopted? Einstein might disagree with you there..detritus
- @detritus i'm no historian, but compared to the Copernican revolution or other major shifts I think it went quite easysofas
- https://www.reddit.c…sofas
- lol, what's the danger in testing a theory and coming up with conclusions based on those tests?monospaced
- scientific progress is happening whether people choose to believe it or not, "thank god."monospaced
- (not to derail, but copernicus was a pussy)Gnash
- That'd be to do with the pace of change afforded by modern science and society though, rather than any kind of unblinking acceptance of theory.detritus
- And quantum theory had to be accepted in some form when practical facets of its effect were used to deploy transistors then wifi, etc. in the real world.detritus
- Perhaps the nuances or even indeed fundamental conceit of quantum theory is flawed, or entirely wrong, but the reality is that on some level - it works.detritus
- There is science. Someone/team trying to prove something.
Then there is cooperate science - someone being paid to prove what is wanted to be heard.mugwart - The way uni's are structured is more limited then the churches and encourages 'same' thought, IMHOmugwart
- you question - your ridiculed - your unemployed.
That isn't science.mugwart - Take climate, take evolution, shit medicine is the worst. Take health/dietitiansmugwart
- I hear all the time I dont believe in religion - I believe in SCIENCE.mugwart
- what does that even mean! Apart from your belief system operates exactly the same way as an otherdox religioniousmugwart
- science doesn't operate like a religion at all ... it writes new books constantly, not reference 1. people believe in the process, OBVIOUSLY!monospaced
- science isn't a belief system, so as hard as people try to cram it into that category, they will always fail, because it doesn't require belief beyond evidencemonospaced
- it actually thrives on disbelief, which drives scientists to seek the answers, propose theories, etc ... and evolution is 100% true, it's not a belief systemmonospaced
- if you add disbelief to religion, you get ridicule, you get banished, or you're forced to beg forgiveness, or forced to believe you've done wrongmonospaced
- science only asks that if you disbelieve, you propose why and then present evidence based on scientific experiments, all in hopes of refinementmonospaced
- Mono, you're right in principle but the reality is entirely different. Organisations that 'do' science are often less open minded and clogged with ...Morning_star
- ...dogma and generational misconceptions. The political hierarchy is full of people more worried about their career than perpetuating good science...Morning_star
- ..., much like religions.Morning_star
- yeah, but that's a narrow view ... because there are ALWAYS scientists that are making real progress, and the scientific method can't be changedmonospaced
- focusing on the minuscule minority that is fulfilling an agenda is not big picture, and even they aren't dogmatic about anything that I've ever heard ofmonospaced
- and even THEN it's NOTHING like religion, as religion references only one book, makes NO progress, doesn't WANT to make progress, and is 100% misconceptionmonospaced
- For a self confessed atheist Mono, your understanding of the variety and scope of different religions is severely limited. Know your enemy.Morning_star
- My understanding is fine, and I apologize for focusing on the religions that use "the book" as those are the ones that are closest to my realm of life.monospaced
- OF COURSE there are other religions that aren't as dogmatic like the western ones, and that aren't as orthodox as the orthodox ones, but that's missing my pointmonospaced
- It's a given, in this thread specifically, that the comparison to a "belief system" is specifically the belief system of a western monotheism one.monospaced
- Of which comparing to science is absolute rubbish, since science is not a belief system, but instead a process of figuring things out.monospaced
- It's not a given. At all. If it makes you feel better to limit the universe for your Atheism because your argument is limited, that's up to you. However, ...Morning_star
- i'm going to post some links to some discussions regarding science and religion which should show that your insistance that belief is absent from science...Morning_star
- ...wrong.Morning_star
- I think the whole recent reproducibility crisis in science is evidence enough that belief often runs a little too strongly.detritus
- It’s fair to say religion is a non-progressive movement. Science is purely based on progress. The only thing holding us back is modern neoliberalismIanbolton
- There is no pro science or anti science. There is just scientific and nonscientific. Science does not care that you don't participatecannonball1978
- Damnit Morningstar, I was here when this thread started. It was about a comparison to Christianity as a belief system. A spin-off from another thread.monospaced
- Gnash4
- yeah not sure i'm with her :) but I do think that determinism and reductionism have killed romance and in some ways it was nicer before...sofas
- lol, as if anyone is stopping scientists from scientifically exploring the science behind black magic! it isn't happening because that's stupid AFmonospaced
- Gnash3
Three new discoveries in a month rock our African origins
The evolutionary story of modern humans just got more complicated
- fascinating, but it always bugged me that they make these grand assumptions based on a few fossils. there could be older human ancestral remains elsewhere_niko
- given how vast this planet is. We are discovering new species of dinosaurs all the time, full intact specimens, imagine how many more partial human like skeleto_niko
- remain to be discovered in this massive planet._niko
- ^ totally true. next week humanity will have sprung from HobokenGnash
- to be fair, It's really just the media that goes all crazy. the scientists just keep chipping away, minding their own businessGnash
- They are hardly grand assumptions, they are just our best guess based on lifetimes of mounting evidence, forever being refined and updatedmonospaced
- Then don't say humans started here, just say the earliest recorded human remains so far were found here. They've been saying it started from one soecific_niko
- Location and spread to the rest of the planet which we now know is false._niko
- They did say that. They said it's "more complicated," and the world is adjusting its story based on the evidence.monospaced
- *didn'tmonospaced
- utopian6
A Stunning Video of Mars That Took Three Months to Stitch Together—by Hand
- utopian2
Physicists just did the impossible, and it could change the way we look at the quantum world
- cannot make sense of it. Can you explain in layman's??hotroddy
- I wish yuri was here to explain this to us retardsmoldero
- holy shit it looks like a close up of a CRT pixelmonospaced
- we used some 3d graphic software to make a thing, and then imagined what it could berobthelad
- lol. great explanation. I understand now.hotroddy
- GeorgesII4
Has science gone too FAR???
I say FUCK yeah!!!After living more than a year with a wearable total artificial heart device, Stan Larkin, 25, returned to the University of Michigan Frankel Cardiovascular Center for a heart transplant.
- utopian2
'Not a scientist': Palin slams Bill Nye over global warming stance
The former Alaska governor, at a panel Thursday on Capitol Hill, ripped the TV star's credentials and accused him of intentionally using his stature to spread what she described as an alarmist agenda on global warming.
- She is the definition of dumbmoldero
- One thing about British politics in comparison is that, while they're all utter cunts, at least they are intelligent utter cunts.set
- the USA is race of the bumbling half witsset
- Can't believe anyone, especially politicians, ever considered her or listen to anything she says.monospaced
- so so dumbmoldero
- some comments on that article are goldmicrokorg
- pablo281
- Love that site: www.futurism.comutopian
- Its not going to be so ideal. basically a story of human enslavement, even further. and those who live longer are in a class system thats allowed longer life.yurimon
- the rest will be disposable people. most likely your kin will be in the disposable lower class.yurimon
- you're the guy dane cook talks about who says "you can't have a monkey, they make terrible pets" whenever anyone says they'd love to have a monkey aren't youscarabin
- crazy, but believableAl_dizzle
- Isn't a $1000 computer already more powerful than a human brain.. in context?
Statements like that are fairly meaningless, somewhat ironically.detritus
- detritus0
n thousand professional scientists CAN be wrong!
Bring back Polio.
Bring back the Pox.
I fancy me some TB!- sure, there're problems with some vaccines, but compared to the overall positive effect? blegh.detritus
- The anti vaxers have been debunked over and over, its a tired debate. Studies came out that indicate common lawn pesticide exposure to healthy pregnant ratsgilgamush
- Results in a very high rate of autism in the offspringgilgamush
- there's no connection between vaccinations and autismmonospaced
- Nobody saying its completely wrong. Just something is up with the formula,,. just the industry is fucked up.yurimon
- maybe its vaccines and pesticides combo. You cant neglect that if people get sick after a vaccine that you need to study whats up.yurimon
- Autism doesn't start to manifest untill 2yo and can't be diagnosed till 2 years later. The supposed causality is nonsence. Have a nephew with asd, I've studiedgilgamush
- Plentygilgamush
- Well researched, not studiedgilgamush
- My aunt is an expert in autism and childhood development, and spent 30 years as a tenured researcher. There's no connection and she's not part of any conspiracymonospaced
- The study I read was trying to make sence out of why urban and rural kids develop asd at a significantly lower rate than suburban kids.gilgamush
- Lawn care practices seem to be the culprit. You can say maybe this maybe that Yuri but you need peer reviewed studies to go making alarmist claims against vaxesgilgamush
- Otherwise it is irresponsible to go telling uneducated people provocative things based on conjecture. And yes big pharma is evil as fuckgilgamush
- look at the jama study. seems to be some professional opposition.yurimon
- are you reffering to this? http://jama.jamanetw…gilgamush
- lol.scarabin
- JAMA study: "In this large sample of privately insured children with older siblings, receipt of the MMR vaccine not associated with increased risk of ASD..."ETM
- scarabin1
- Titan: river of fartsset
- Rain in Korea: http://4.bp.blogspot…sarahfailin
- oh myscarabin
- The Korean word for rain is pronounced "pee".i_monk
- i was gonna make a joke about wanting rain on me until you turned it into a golden showers remarkscarabin
- lolmoldero
- _niko1
- Nope. Still not a belief system. Just a way to figure shit out.monospaced
- Ha ha Mono. Still barking up that tree? There are two things on that that are based on probability, not fact. Keep on believing the hype.Morning_star
- hype.Morning_star
- yeah, probabilities based on scientific knowledge... all part of the process of figuring things out... not a belief systemmonospaced
- probabilities are a way of saying we know "this much" about something, but aren't cunts and claim to know it allmonospaced
- NO. No its not. Probability is the chance of something happening or exisiting. It's not 'we know 80% and we've just got to fill in the gaps'.Morning_star
- in the gaps'. For instance, there is a chance (probability) that the Higgs particle does not exist. Its uncertainty in mathmatical form.Morning_star
- Yes, exactly. Science poses probabilities that are correct, instead of a dogmamonospaced
- <that 9-mile, underwater city would be pretty dark after about 100 meterssarahfailin
- Mono, wants to believe.yurimon
- "pretty dark"? we have artificial light. and by then probably something that simulates sunlight.iCanHazQBN
- fadein111
Problem with science (research) is it is expensive so it relies on funding from outside sources with an agenda. So true and free innovation is rarely achieved and when it is it is often suppressed.
Hence why we still drive around in boxes with four wheels.- Who else, aside from the government, universities and individual companies, would you expect to fund it?ukit2
- lol - universities don't fund it!!fadein11
- Universities get grants from government and private donors, but they often end up spending their own money as well to carry out the researchukit2
- out the research.ukit2
- nope - all scientific research has a donor - university research exist from funding by said donor. only the research that gets funding goes ahead, and the money comes from external sources who have an agenda - its simple what I said no?fadein11
- funding goes ahead, and the money comes from external sources who have an agenda - its simple what I said no?fadein11
- Universities retain some of intellectual property...yurimon
- US University funding's a bit of a different landscape to British university funding.detritus
- not sure - i guess my point was most scientific research is driven by corporate / military / govt interests (dare I mention the industrial militar complex?)fadein11
- the industrial military complex?)fadein11
- that's a pretty big crock of shit, and my friends who are Univ researchers would agreemonospaced
- They can win money/grants, but nobody is fucking telling them what to research and what their results should bemonospaced
- < they not part of the group...yurimon
- @mono - where do you think the grants come from you fuckwit.fadein11
- I'm not talking about minor backwater PHDs in trivial topics - I am talking about science that drives progressfadein11
- Morning_star0
The results were jaw-dropping, with 'hits' such as 100% accuracy on two random numbers, one eight digits and the other nine; 60 to 100% accuracy on three of the five-letter nonsense words; 100% accuracy on six out of twelve equations with 15 to 19 digits each; and between 81 to 100% accuracy on sentences of between 18 and 35 letters. The video and audio surveillance showed no evidence of cueing or fraud.
- bwaaahahahahaa, and? I am on the edge of my seat waiting for the point you're making with thismonospaced
- http://uproxx.files.…ApeRobot
- Thank, you've made my point for me. You are so certain that this cannot be real you dismiss it without investigation. An that's called belief.Morning_star
- called belief.
Morning_star - if you think this study is actual evidence, then you have to get your head checked, sorry bromonospaced
- It's a series of tests that show a phenomenon that cannot be explained and requires further investigation. Or are you claiming to be able to explain the results.Morning_star
- to be able to explain the results, oh great one ;)Morning_star
- monospaced has spoken. listen to his wisdom. incredible.fadein11
- I'm saying those tests are weak at best. No need to make fun of someone just because they're right. It's bad science. Period.monospaced
- You are not right, by any stretch of the imagination. Even when shown anomalous evidence that challenges the materialist paradigm, you KNOW it's wrong? In the face of contrary evidence your blind faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- you KNOW the truth. Yet, you never offer contrary evidence, just narrow minded opinion. Your blind faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- the least.Morning_star
- Ever heard the the saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?ukit2
- When it is some "researcher" who already belongs to the Parapsychological Organization and went in believing this stuff, natural reaction is to be suspicious.ukit2
- and the story is published in some sketchy looking psychic news site, natural reaction is to be suspicious that what they are claiming is true.ukit2
- claiming is true. After all there are many ways to fake the results of an experiment.ukit2
- Do you believe in ghosts too?
Hey look, "evidence"...
http://www.dailygrai…ukit2 - < Some guy said it, it must be trueukit2
- I've already given links to hundreds of experiments and peer reviewed papers by reputable labs. Is your position so weak that you have to criticise the people rather than the results. As for 'extraordinary claims etc' it's a bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- so weak that you have to criticise the people rather than the results. As for 'extraordinary claims etc' it's a bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- Not really, the links you provided are all to people like Dean Radin who make a living out of being the go to psychic expertukit2
- In the video you posted, Radin stated he believes the entire universe is made up of consciousness. How he jumped all the way to that conclusion not sure, but not exactly neutral.ukit2
- all the way to that conclusion based on some anomolous test results not sure, but gives you an idea of his extreme bias on this issue.ukit2
- A truly scientific approach would be to not assume any particular explanation, but to try to uncover the mechanism by which this stuff is supposedly occurring.ukit2
- And the problem with that is? What exactly is wrong with Dean Radin and the labs and experiments he's involved with. Again, criticise the results all you like but attacking the people is just weak.Morning_star
- stuff is supposedly occurring. Instead of jumping to these pre-conceived new age ideas.ukit2
- Again, criticise the results all you like but attacking the people is just weak.Morning_star
- It's not preconceived. His analysis is based on decades of results. He's an expert in his field, of course he's going to have a bias. As long as he approaches his experiments with neutrality, which he does, then what's the problem. Are you suggesting that Dawkins should twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- have a bias. As long as he approaches his experiments with neutrality, which he does, then what's the problem. Are you suggesting that Dawkins should twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- Are you suggesting that Dawkins shouldnt twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- It's pretty easy to self-declare yourself an "expert" in a non-existent field. If someone claims to be a Bigfoot expert and spent their life looking for Bigfoot, do you believe them over everyone else?ukit2
- their life looking for Bigfoot, and gets funding from people on that basis, do you believe them over everyone else?ukit2
- There is an audience of people who want to believe in this psychic powers stuff, and people like Radin tell them what they want to hearukit2
- want to hearukit2
- It comes down to the evidence. I don't care if it's Bigfoot, ESP or the Higgs Boson, if the evidence is collected with scientific rigour and stands up to scrutiny then it has to be considered, until, someone can prove otherwise. Claiming truth is dependent on the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- and stands up to scrutiny then it has to be considered, until, someone can prove otherwise. Claiming truth is dependent on the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- It's not idiotic because everyone defers to authority to some extent. If you read something in the National Inquirer, especially a ridiculous far-fetched claim, you are less inclined to believe it than if read in the Guardian or BBC (I hope).ukit2
- ridiculous far-fetched claim, you are less inclined to believe it than if read in the Guardian or BBC (I hope).ukit2
- Previously you said you thought Deepak Chopra was a fraud, which I completely agree with. Well if that's true doesn't it raise a few questions as to why Radin allows him to publish his books and even write the introduction to his latest book?ukit2
- question as to why Radin allows him to publish his books and even write the introduction to his latest book?ukit2
- This is getting too long, my reply is down there.Morning_star
- a kid hears a different horn outside one day, and they call that ESP evidence? c'mon...scarabin
- this site is the westboro baptist church of "science"scarabin
- utopian0
- http://i.imgur.com/H…pablo28
- obviously you konw nothing about what happened lol. tardy to the party.yurimon
- you don't "know" either, you just have your beliefsmonospaced
- Science is AWESOME. Let's not forget Joseph Mengele and his awesome work in the name of science. And Oppenheimer and his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- companies. Awesome. For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- no one saying is not awesome. these logical fallacy posts suckyurimon
- I shall defeat thee phantom internet atheist!mrrgl
- Technically, science is also flying into the buildingcannonball1978
- utopian0
Scientists have just discovered the "Godzilla of Earths" -- a new type of huge and rocky alien world about 560 light-years from Earth.
- Doesn't exist, according to Catholic Churchukit2
- 17x the mass means 17x the gravity. Some crazy implications to that.sarahfailin
- Some dense motherfuckers must live there.wagshaft
- Is that how the math works sarahfailin? Direct 1:1 mass to gravity?monospaced
- i heard in a doc that if a rocky world was too big it would implode, didnt make much sensemoldero
- Yep. G=(m1*m2)/d^2 -- at least in newtonian gravitysarahfailin
- er, there's a gravitational constant in there too.sarahfailin
- Ya'll talking about shit you don't understand.wagshaft
- we understand it, actuallymonospaced
- unlike religious folk talking about good/evil and the afterlife and jeebus and shitemonospaced
- Me thinks one would not be able to move on this massive planet. Would require some serious skeletons or goo.wagshaft
- or primarily aquatic life-- there's deepsea animals able to live under tremendous pressures on earth.sarahfailin
- supermanbrandelec
- krypton, that little red planet is bloodtonmoldero
- GeorgesIV0
- gravity is actually the weakest of the natural forcessarahfailin
- except when you jump out of skyscraperGeorgesIV
- http://en.wikipedia.…hereswhatidid
- haha Gmoldero
- http://www.youtube.c…yurimon
- bro, does gravity even lift?cannonball1978
- yurimon0
- Astronomer Believes ...Weyland
- he also claims the existence of paranormal phenomenon... facepalmmonospaced
- Standard religious approach to validity. 1 person agrees with me? Must be true! 999999 disagree? Conspiracy!hereswhatidid
- dude hes a scientist... what kind of secular science crap you are trying to pull. lolyurimon
- he proposes to study it, corresponding to actual multi-dimension theories recognized by science.uan
- makes me want to try dmt now, someone hook it upmoldero
- GeorgesIV0
This is the strongest confirmation yet of cosmic inflation theories, which say the universe expanded by 100 trillion trillion times, in less than the blink of an eye.
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how is this not a belief system...read the article before commenting please
-- theory != beliefhereswhatidid
- It is a belief, but one that can and is constantly challenged and questioned. Just like that in god. SEE YOU IN HELL.MrT
- time then, is not time now. how would a blink of an eye been measured then?Gnash
- ummm, evidence doesn't require belief, it's just facts and evidencemonospaced
- and theories are quite often hard scientic facts... like the theory of gravitymonospaced
- BAM well said, monodoesnotexist
- you know gravity has an effect of but its theory of what exactly it is. bam boo!yayurimon
- repackage that in proper english, yurihereswhatidid
- dude, just because we don't know everything about gravity doesn't make it less realmonospaced
- and don't even start to compare it with religion or belief... gravity is real son, scientifically, unlike godmonospaced
