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  • section_0144

    If they don't say shit about MBP's at next week's event, I'm over it. Honestly, I'll get used to Windows 10 (already run 7 for gaming), and try the Linux inside of Windows feature for unix style servers.

    All I want a laptop for is doing some Android and Unity stuff on the go. My old MBP is slow. Thing is 6 years old. It was a great computer, but it needs upgraded. Their current offering is so far behind everyone else. I mean, if they were like $600, that's one thing. But double that for 3+ year old tech. C'mon now.

    Worst part is: People (like me) are ready to drop the money on what would still be overpriced hardware.

    • SSD in your laptop already? I waited years for a new Mac Pro and ended up getting an old version and maxing it out.

      Staying current is a young mans game.
      ideaist
    • Can someone tell me which laptops are better than a MBP for less money? Seems like lots of people claim this, but I can't find one.nb
    • Oh nevermind I found some.nb
    • i think this is the year many people jump ship.pango
    • PCs', FINALLY, are really make hardware that is comparable. W10 is a nice OS, design wise is decades ahead of OSX.formed
    • lol @ decades ahead ... I use both regularly and it's not that advanced or as productivity focused as you're making it out to bemonospaced
    • SSD in old hardware is required, as much RAM as you can afford. CPU speeds are less of a jump in 6 years than they use to be, but bumping the GPU is a good ideaevilpeacock
    • I feel the exact same way, but about an iMac. I know they're overpriced for what you get,noneck
    • but I'm still willing to pay that premium, as long as it's not also 1year old.noneck
    • Apple laptops are still some of the best design and build quality. That matters a lot in a product being used everyday. So yes they are overpriced but I don'tyuekit
    • know if you can do a one on one comparison just by looking at hardware specs. And Windows 10 years ahead? I dunno, I still hate it :)yuekit
    • I said "design wise", relax people :-)formed
    • it'd take a lot to jump ship as windows is ugly as fuck, but apple are seriously on a knifes edge right now for me...inteliboy
    • 'not as productivity focused' I get my work done better on my Windows machines at home and at work than i ever did on my iMac. Using OSX now is like sludge.face_melter
    • Any of you thinking of switching to PC using Sketch? I use PCs but the one thing that would make me get a Mac is Sketch. There's nothing like it on PC yet.mort_
    • yeah this new apple ceo suckssince1979
    • is he still new after 7 years?monospaced
    • I don't think you can say he "sucks", Apple has done quite well. Slow and boring, imho, but the company has done very well.formed
    • what has apple done in 7 years? jobs set em up to reign.since1979
    • They put 1 port on laptop...pango
    • for what you say - I'd get a decent PC and switch to unix. Checkout mint. Its sort of like Windows 7.mugwart
    • I hope they release something new!maquito
    • like what?monospaced
    • iWatch 1.4mort_
  • BusterBoy3

    Nothing screams "we've run out of ideas" more than a company like Apple launching a credit card.

    • innovation never sleepsKrassy
    • Ummm, this might be a game changer, be need to learn more about the benefits. Just think, all your other cards drop their fees yo match apple card...!robotron3k
    • Maybe. But I'm definitely signing up.e-wo
    • Yup. And nothing more screams "we know how to make more $ for our shareholders". Which can fuck right off.inteliboy
    • I'm sticking with cash.MrT
    • No fees -- any competition of this kind is welcomedrgs
    • Titanium card! - now thats enough to make this desirable for lots of folksSlashPeckham
    • iDebt for iDiots.MrT
    • Debt is the future.PhanLo
    • it's about time for a new UFO CrashSTORM305
    • Would prefer to have the ability to use / setup the middle mouse button in Sys Prefs...shapesalad
    • no fees, apple. I'm in if it come to canadaGnash
    • What cards do you guys have that has fees?? I have 5 cc cards and none have fees, all have rewardsformed
    • i'm lazyGnash
    • my AmEx has a yearly fee, but the rewards make up for it many-foldmonospaced
    • I'd prefer Quicktime to play .mov filesMrT
    • Apple: "GE had good luck with credit services, didn't they? Didn't they?"PublicVoice
  • nb6

    Sigh...

    Second dead iPhone in just over a year.

    Apple support is awful.

    iPhones used to last for years, now they're just shit.

    • Blasphemy! Apple is the tits.babydick
    • iPhone screen stops working (happened while sitting on a desk.) Apple: PLEASE UNLOCK YOUR IPHONE FOR SUPPORTnb
    • Apple: We need you to book an appointment at an Apple store. Next available: NEVER. Please drive 114 miles to this other Apple store, 3 weeks from today.nb
    • Apple: "you've been paying $3/mo for a year for iCloud backup. Your phone was backed up nightly. But we can't access any of those photos and can't explain why."nb
    • YEEEEESHnb
    • What phone? My iphone X runs fine for four years now. Don't want to switch to a bad one.Longcopylover
    • I was thinking of getting an iphone again, my samsung is about 5 years old now. Maybe not??pinkfloyd
    • Iphone SE 2016 still going strong. IOS 15, runs snappy. 1 battery replacement.jagara
    • iPhone SE2020nb
    • 2 MBP and 1 iPad Pro...phone? Sony Xperia X Performance Dual.
      Running LineageOS. Thanks.
      oey_oey
    • inNOvation never diesutopian
    • That's called karma dickheadcanoe
    • ... spoken like someone who has no idea what the word karma meansmonospaced
    • How is apple support awful? They replaced my wife’s broken iPhone foe free twice. Best customer support evermonospaced
    • Never had an issuefyoucher1
  • NBQ004

    This is cool.

    But I don't get the MacBook Air. I thought the "MacBook" were replacing it as they were already super thin.

    Anyway the new iPad Pro really nice

    • Would love to try it out for drawing.PhanLo
    • It seems really great right now, but in the future, they will make a new version and then this one will be shite that you pick up cheap on eBay for your mum .shapesalad
    • Just like with every tech after couple of years. And?NBQ00
    • Such a mongy comment salad. LOLHayzilla
    • anyone else annoyed how much they call it an 'all-screen, edge to edge display'? that 1/2" bezel is small, but it still countsakiersky
    • yeah^^Bennn
    • ha ha.. well... it was once existing when they first launched the ranges, but now it's rinse and repeat...shapesalad
    • *excitingshapesalad
    • They made it slimmer and the screen is slightly bigger, also the device has magnets for new and INNOVATIVE ways of attaching 3rd party shit. Glad I didn't wait.Maaku
    • wow. it's so light and thin and unbound from profligate consumption.PeterPancake
    • Peter, isn't this geared towards creative people? If it makes you productive & creative it's not just about consumption.NBQ00
    • Somewhat about consumption.PeterPancake
    • Was mostly referring to the the thin/light marketing. You're expressing a mutual relationship between creativity, production and tech.PeterPancake
    • Does the USBC connect to hard drive? Or they gonna force you pay more for storage space?pango
    • Face Id is still a deal breaker for me.pango
    • Wow charging the pen isn't stupid anymore.pango
    • yeah, if they didn't fucked up the pen delay i'm buying one.sted
    • https://media.giphy.…notype
    • a keyboard that is perfect for group facetime? wtf was that :)uan
    • Okay, i'm actually a bit wow'ed here. Apple seems back on track for a change.jagara
  • NBQ00-1

    Auto experts use Apple patents to create interactive 3D model of what the Apple Car might look like

    https://9to5mac.com/2021/11/10/a…

    Ugly but probably won’t be this

    • Lolnb
    • hoo boy....duckseason
    • Why the large ground clearance?shapesalad
    • Why not?cannonball1978
    • If cars use batteries and AI to drive, why do they still look like cars?grafician
    • why do they still look like cars?
      --- dude... this is the exact question i keep asking myself.
      exador1
    • I'm thinking at some point, it's gonna be a small living room on wheels. just comfort.exador1
    • wanna drive from Toronto to Florida? cool.
      just hop in, give the destination, and chill out on the sofa and watch some netflix.
      exador1
    • Electric luxury RVs are the future...grafician
    • "When the hurricanes and tornadoes blow your house every year, it's time to hop in your new electric RV house on wheels and driveee babyyy driveee"grafician
    • assume it's good for safaris, after the important security update of course.MrT
    • that's gonna be a no from me dawginteliboy
    • utter shitebabydick
    • This is what a car should look like https://i.redd.it/j3…scarabin
    • @cannonball1978 Higher ground clearance means less aerodynamics and more difficulty getting in. It'd mostly be driven on pavement so the height isn't needed.trondlandvik
    • It means less downward force via aerodynamics, not less aerodynaicscannonball1978
    • C Y B Y E R S L E E Putopian
    • C Y B E R S H I Tutopian
    • iPinto
      https://cdn.dealerac…
      dbloc
    • ^ That parking job is even worse than Pinto's reputation as a car.CyBrainX
    • Needs more Apple logos.mutanthands
    • Ugly as Fuck!utopian
    • I don't see anything about the patents that dictates an SUV style body or anything that looks like this. It's fan art, chill.monospaced
    • Tires sold separately, $1000/each.i_monk
  • _niko16

    What are you guys on about? I don’t notice the notch

  • SimonFFM2

    I need a new phone. Is the iPhone 12 mini any good? Is anyone having it? I don't want a super big phone in my pocket and I have small hands.

    Actually I'd like to keep my old iPhone SE (1st generation), but it only supports 3G and therefore doesn't work for me anymore.

    • Fuck me mate. If you've made it this far without 4G, keep the SE!Hayzilla
    • yes hold onto the se. i still have mine (tho s2), it's a decent size, not like the other proto-tablets out there.hans_glib
    • iPhone 13 mini probably being announced tomorrow. At least wait until then. The 12 price will drop and the 13 will be newnb
    • I have the iPhone SE2 (2020) and it’s great but the photo quality can be AWFUL. Worst camera quality I’ve seen in ten years.nb
    • I finally upgraded last year to the mini. Is great, no complaints.inteliboy
    • @Hayzilla It's still my 1st smartphone. Never owned another one. Haha. No internet on the go is a problem, though.SimonFFM
    • The wife has the 12 mini and loves it. I have the regular 12 and don't mind the scalemisterhow
    • If you don't care about the fancy cameras get the cheapest one that is available new.mekk
    • The mini is a similar form to the original SE. I’m replacing my SE2 this week after the Apple event.nb
    • Thanks, guys!SimonFFM
    • A good friend just got one (because his family is all on Apple). He hates it. Hates the camera. 6 months of use and he's switching.formed
    • Missed the mini part, he just hates the iPhone. I think it's the expensive one w the 'best' camera.formed
    • I replaced my iPhone 6 last year with the iPhone 12 mini. So far it’s been great. The low light capability of the camera is fantastic.Chimp
    • Was also looking at the iPhone 12 mini to replace my Samsung S7... it's about the same sizeCalderone2000
    • I got the mini last year. I like the size but I need my glasses to read anything that doesn't support larger text*.
      *signs your getting old
      fooler
    • I have a 12 mini and I love it. Perfect size.mathinc
    • Yep, mini is great. Fit's nicely in my pocket.fyoucher1
    • My Iphone SE 2016 is fully updated, runs everything smoothly. Camra isn't great, but it stays until it starts refusing to update IOS (or irreparably breaks)jagara
    • *camerajagara
  • Nairn8

    Wait up, I think I've got this sorted.

  • kingsteven5

    My 2014 MacBook Pro had nasty key and trackpad outlines etched in to the antiglare coating on the screen glass - it wasn't visible in use until a couple of years ago (and I missed the 4 year Apple replacement scheme) but now it's noticeable all the time and pretty distracting when working on a white background.

    I have a new 16" on the way but in order to keep it tidy for work i'm going to try and get at least a couple more years out of this one as a rehearsal room/ live recording rig (i remember gigs)... so I figured I'd try and do a bit of a refurb myself and replaced the battery, rubber feet and charger this week, unfortunately the only way to replace the glass is to replace the whole screen assembly (costing about 300 noop) so that's not really an option. While searching for solutions I found a few people saying that the anti-glare coating could be removed entirely by using Listerine and a microfibre cloth, so fuck it, I thought i'll give it a go...

    Before:


    After:


    As you can see, it's much more reflective when the screen is off, but in use it's hardly noticeable - certainly a massive improvement on the state it was in.

    • dopenb
    • I’ve never seen damaged anti glare coating before. And yours is crazy messed up.monospaced
    • Damnscarabin
    • Anybody use that $1000 apple nano coating?scarabin
    • yeah, it was only visible at the edge for years, got worse when the battery started to die so it may be heat related... google 'apple staingate' to see somekingsteven
    • horror stories, i think these models 2014/2015 are particularly prone to it.kingsteven
    • I have a similar problem on a 2015 but it’s not even close to this bad. Just a little at the topnb
    • piece of paper. problem solvedautoflavour
    • i had my screen replaced for free by Apple as the coating was wearing away.Leigh
    • you're a king, stevenpseud
    • it's a common problem, I have a little but nothing like that on a 2015. You can remove the coating apparently but I haven't bothered yet as not that bad.fadein11
    • oops, should have read to the end.fadein11
    • I find rubbing/isopropyl alcohol is easier than mint listerine. Cleans up waxy or greasy finger prints that glass cleaner cannot remove.fattymcgrizzle
    • yeah, read a few techniques but went for the listerine because it wasn't as harsh... day 2 and this is such an improvement, wish i'd done it ages ago.kingsteven
    • I have exactly the same problem with my late 2013 mbp. even worse... thanks for the tip!sandpipe
    • be quite sparing with the listerine - i've seen some folks that damaged the screen because it leaked behind the glass! - small dabs and a circular movementkingsteven
    • worked for me, only took about 20 minutes! i may go back and tidy the edges up with a q-tipkingsteven
    • Is the glare really bad now? Wondering if I should take the plunge as well. Mine's got some nasty marks where they screen hits a couple of the keys.Gucci
    • haven't noticed any glare under normal lighting but the weather has been grim, i may regret it come hammock season...kingsteven
    • i read some folks used anti glare film that attaches statically afterwards... may be worth a look https://uk.gearbest.…kingsteven
  • PonyBoy2

    Anyone else's 6 or 6+ just goto shit after this last set up of updates?... I think we're on the 3rd iteration of the new IOS as it is.

    My phone locks up... gets all twitchy... things become unresponsive at times where you'll tap around wondering why nothing's happening THEN all of the sudden the fucking thing wakes up and starts popping open all the apps you just tapped on... :/

    Really fucking frustrating... this recent version of IOS.

    OH... the phone just opts to reboot out of nowhere every now and then too or it says it has nearly 30% power and just shuts off.

    Don't get me started on the time it takes to reboot too... losing my mind w/this latest IOS update.

    • Oh man. Why did you update when it's well known that that would happen?monospaced
    • yeah... feeling pretty dumb about it. :/PonyBoy
    • The point is that it SHOULDN'T happen. Not on devices they say are supported for the upgrade. It's pretty much the same thing on a 7 as well.ETM
    • yup. sucks shit._niko
    • I still have a 5s. Have up updated yet...
      My question is... how the hell do I make the update notification to never show up again?
      pango
    • Ever since the update my 6's battery is shit.fooler
    • My 5 couldn’t do the update. Still runs great tho. My iPad tho, it has the update. It runs like shit now.dopepope
    • Same here. This is the buggiest thing I've ever seem from Apple. Also my phone has never died on my with nightly charges, now it dies daily. DAILY!SteveJobs
    • Well, bricking your "old" phone is a nice way to nudge you to a new phone isn't it?rabattski
    • my 4s is still kickingGnash
    • @pango, google it ... they hide it deep in iCloud settings ... the update is downloaded already and it's notifying you to run the install ... just delete itmonospaced
    • My 6 has all these issues since the first iOS11 update. Apart from the reboot thing. Most commonly it struggles to know whether it is portrait or landsape.Hayzilla
    • ok just checked. it didn't even download the updatefor me cuz my 16gb phone is seriously out of space. lolpango
    • My girlfriend's died at 30% yesterday. #iwonderwhygarbage
    • #notsuspiciousatallgarbage
    • same same as everyone else. constantly shuts down at 30%. glitchy/slow transitions. and music! fuck me-i constantly have to go back and hit the play button...lvl_13
    • because switching apps or jumping on and off wifi pauses the music every fucking time.lvl_13
    • ARRRRRRGGGGGGGlvl_13
    • I'm having the same issues on my 6. Battery life sucks. My touchscreen is poorly responsive or at times unresponsive. Texting has become a nightmare.OP31
    • Fuck me... had no idea it was so widespread... glad I’m not insane!PonyBoy
    • I just replaced the battery on my 6 and things are working so much better, and ya i was having some weird issues too.BabySnakes
  • pango2

    iPad doesn't come with calculator? Wtf is this?!? What doesn't have calculator now a day?!? Even microwave has camera! Even my watch has calculator!

    This will be the end of apple!!

    • Just get SoulverESKEMA
    • But yeah it's a bit ridiculous..ESKEMA
    • takes you 30 seconds to download an appinv
    • Lolz; just got an iPad again and no calculator, weather, stocks, etc.

      Bizarre.
      ideaist
    • No weather? What!?!?pango
    • no screen on new one apparently - will be all touch - images and sound.fadein11
    • you sure it's not an andriod?fruitsalad
    • You can do it with the search field like with Spotlight on MacOS.

      https://appadvice.co…
      evilpeacock
    • Steve Jobs didn't like the way the calculator app looked on the bigger screen so he killed it.fooler
    • Calculators are for the mentally weak, you should be able to do the calculation yourself -- Steveyuekit
    • This does not help me break away from stereotypes...
      I need calculator!
      pango
    • all this mayhem about a calculatorsureshot
    • Apple lost their edge with that calculator!!!pango
    • 'Even microwave has camera'face_melter
    • lol face - I enjoyed that also Pango.fadein11
    • There are hundreds of calculator apps for iPad.monospaced
    • jesus guys just listen to monodoesnotexist
    • Next thing u know they be taking the clock away "But you can just download a clock". I know But when I spent 600+dollars I expect it to come with a damn clock!pango
    • It never sleeps...utopian
    • reminds me of: everyones has pony. even sister had pony.SimonFFM
  • MrT4

    Right, this is day one and just QBN. I fear the day they actually release something.

    Of course you can do it cheaper with a Windows machine/custom build/whatever. When was that not the case?

    Yeah I'm a bit nostalgic, but it was more fun when you blithely bought a Mac because you were a designer. Perhaps it was easy because sending print artworks from Windows would earn you a well-deserved slap.

    Now everyone's an expert, poring over performance charts and lab tests and blowing angry little dismissive bubbles to climb into; it's a piece of shit while it's still only PR. Was the sky not cloudy enough yesterday?

    Throw away your Rotring retractable pencils, you can get 'em free at IKEA.

    • well said clap clap clap_niko
    • People laugh and hate on every single apple launch ever. Expected... but still surprises me that well war trodden qbn still falls for it all.inteliboy
    • Yep. I'll probably get flamed overnight hehe.MrT
    • but price point at basic is a sub 2K build for 5999... ill informed consumers should know. more informed buyers generate better markets and products.deathboy
    • by the way how can you tell if you sent a print artwork from windows or a mac?deathboy
    • I’m going way back. When you packaged up the whole thing with fonts. Printers always kicked off...MrT
    • I understand the better-informed angle, but as soon as you buy anything it’s dated. It’s the pathological constant comparison I’m niggled byMrT
    • Yeah everyone's a critic and self-appointed expert these days. Go back and read the comments on QBN when the iPad was released...almost 100% negativeyuekit
    • and people were mocking the entire concept saying it had no chance of success lol.yuekit
    • holy shit every page some prophet says Apple is dead and meanwhile they’ve become the richest company in the world.monospaced
    • Apple is the new Microsoft, since a few years now. Remember all the hate Microsoft received when they became huge? Now its Apple.Bennn
    • Apple is the most richest company in the universe.deadsperm
    • back then Apple didn't just not upgrade their hardware for six years. I'm afraid it will happen to the new Mac Pro too.mekk
    • Huh, all I see is #1 Apple fanboys everywhere, all the time or #2 people mentioning it's $6k for 32GB ram....formed
    • Its only a computer, if it makes you happy and have the money go ahead, buy it, I would If I had the money...valentim
    • I would only buy it if I needed that kind of power, which I don't.monospaced
    • Just too expensive - I built a PC with more than the highest specs of the trash can for under 6K - It would have cost over 30K from apple - no upgrades either.toemaas
    • Yeah but your suped-up Chrysler minivan will never be a Ferrari :)_niko
    • My Chrysler is kicking 4K videos 8x faster than my Ferarri. I'm both Mac and PC - I just havent liked where Mac is going with their prices for the same parts.toemaas
    • PT Cruiser FTW
      https://www.youtube.…
      deadsperm
  • Bennn2

    These new display and the Mac Pro are for pros and businesses, knowing how long tech last, only a few years, investing all that money in these for an individual would be a very bad choice, unless that individual has lots of money to burn.

    • Thanks Bennnnnnnnn!Ianbolton
    • What kinds of "businesses" buy such hardware? I'm working in advertising for half of my life++ and never seen anything exceed eizos top tier lineup and the likemekk
    • how long tech last? my macpro1,1 is over 10 yrs old and still going strong.hans_glib
    • ^Gnash
    • @mekk post-production, video editing, effects, sound studios, etc. - the Pro market - the guys with the moneys. Advertising barely affords top of the line iMacsgrafician
    • I never understood how can someone use the same computer for over 10 years... But if it makes the job for you, goodBennn
    • i guess i prefer to waste my money on wine, women and song, rather than shiny new tech that does exactly what the old tech did.hans_glib
    • Well, then they'll continue to shed users. Pricing regular people out of products doesn't retain them.section_014
    • pros i know (video post/pre, animation and sound editing) buy these things for representation and as a desktop extension for the specialized hardware :Dsted
    • only bullshit artists need this type of stuff right now.sted
    • broadcast monitors cost around 7k-20k+. pretty basic shit if you've ever dabbled in video. surprised this is even a question on qbn.inteliboy
    • and they all rush out and buy apple now and enjoy genius bar support? Stuff is expensive because support and I don't see Apple leading here by farmekk
    • It's upgradeable, supposedly. With all those PCI slots, it's kinda built to outlast it's own current tech. We'll see.monospaced
    • @sted, you really need to come check out some of the cutting edge video boutiques around me, because they MORE than need this kind of machine.monospaced
    • A twitter thread from a guy that handles Macs for the Pro industry: https://twitter.com/…grafician
    • ^ from link: "tl;dr: The Mac Pro and display fill a large gap in Apple's professional product line. Prices are reasonable for the professional user....Gnash
    • ".... If you want one at home, you are an idiot."Gnash
    • Well, looks like they went all out! All out of everyone's fucking price range. Jesus fucking Christ, Apple!davey_g
    • $900 is not bad for a monitor standGnash
    • #Bennnsplanation of the day! LOL! Thanks, BennnKrassy
    • This is my purposeBennn
    • good for finance co's that are doing big data crunching.shapesalad
    • @monospaced i'm not saying that there is no market for this product. if you don't have the option to just burn money on new hw in every yearsted
    • apple hardware wasn't your choice.sted
    • and i I think apple will be interesting again.sted
    • @sted, you said anyone who needs this is a "bullshit artist" as if you couldn't even imagine a scenario. How was I supposed to interpret that nonsense?monospaced
    • literally today I could USE this machine to crunch through 18 8k renders that we need for a bespoke projection mapping project going live on Thursdaymonospaced
    • I guarantee it's not bullshit. We spent $12K to build an equivalent rig and it's made up of several machines and GPUs (none Mac). And it's probably slower.monospaced
    • https://www.youtube.…
      see NVIDIA Quadro server solution for video post production at 0:36 :) this was just 4k in 2016 :)
      sted
    • what i'm trying to explain that this is a good path but this hardware isn't forward looking as it should be, and i'm afraid that it won't inspire anythingsted
    • sure it is ... but you are counting Afterburner, which is the secret weapon that not even NVIDIA is matchingmonospaced
    • "... capable of handling up to three streams of 8K ProRes RAW or 12 streams of 4K ProRes RAW" FREEING UP the GPUs for processingmonospaced
    • I can't imagine anyone anywhere that could possibly claim that isn't forward thinking or inspiring.monospaced
    • nostalgia for sure :) ProRes RAW is like mov and this new machine is like the 2006 macpro with a more closed packaging.sted
    • lol okmonospaced
    • Mac Pro is for pro’s?
      Bugger me.
      MrT
  • inteliboy10

    New MBP 14 M1 Max arrived....

    It's a beast. Keyboard is back and very nice, the ports, MagSafe... all back to how it should be. Most of all really looking forward to testing this Apple silicone, major reason why upgraded after grinding it out on rage inducing sluggishness with intel chips for years.

    The screen quality is a jump and feels a lot bigger compared to what am used to on the 13". Personally am digging you can put the menu bar up into the bezel around the camera, have way more real estate now. If 20 year old me was complaining about notches and the inane shit we whine about with todays technology... I'd have kicked myself in the dick...

    Only stick out is the new Mac OS.... nice to get a new laptop with a fresh OS... Yet holy shit some of the icons are ugly. And the new OS sounds are really weird and distracting... like a bizarro version of a mac. Am not sure why they changed them. Very questionable on who ever is in charge of this stuff over at Apple, i.e. they need to be fired.

    • That's top notchin' brah.utopian
    • lol_niko
    • agree new osx is awful. preview app icon changed to worse. and why system warning buttons are stacked!shapesalad
    • haha icons and taskbar looks shit!i_was
    • I bought a comb to see, because it messes up the hair.Gabriel
  • NBQ005

    I just don’t get it. Dell was able to put a webcam in their thin top bezel but Apple has a bezel like this plus a notch!

    What went wrong, Apple?

    • Perhaps they put it in so they can take it out in a couple of years and charge more $$$Chimp
    • Also, why is it so wide?Chimp
    • 2022: We've made the notch 14% smaller in our greatest MacBook Pro evernb
    • 2024: We've made the notch 8% smaller in our greatest Macbook Pro evernb
    • 2025: We've made the notch 23% smaller in our greatest Macbook Pro evernb
    • I think it’s because everyone else already copied the physical form exactly down to the small details. It’s how they differentiate the design.monospaced
    • who gives a fuckinteliboy
    • Big Notch got to themzarkonite
    • shut up everyone! apple know what's best for you!pango
    • How good is the Dell or other camera compared to this one? Supposedly this one is much nicer than before.evilpeacock
    • Looks like the notch fits in the bar that's above most apps. Maybe they are getting people used to it, so in the next version they can add in face ID / AR shizslappy
    • Yeah, that makes senseChimp
    • My Dell XPS 17" has face ID and no notch. Just sayin'formed
    • "It’s how they differentiate the design."

      Lol, It Stays™
      noRGB
    • You laugh, but it is a design queue associated with Apple products, and its basically a brand marker.monospaced
    • I'm not making excuses, or defending it either. Just saying what it is.monospaced
    • It's how they couldn't overcome a problem...pango
    • It's how they chose to deal with it. Not my favorite, but it's their thing.monospaced
    • i dunno man. seem like they're just doubling down on this eyesore. "it's our brand now"pango
    • that's what I said, lolmonospaced
    • and i say that's a certified smh moment.pango
  • Ben990

    "Microsoft did it already blah blah"
    "Its already on Android since 2 years blah blah"

    Sorry but no one gave a shit when they came with those new technology, when Apple copy them, everyone (lots of people) care. So Apple have something the other dont have. Thats the game. Apple wins on that, so Microsoft and Android can invent all the new gadget and tech they want, Apple will always be more popular with them. The stronger win. And Apple is stronger. Accept it.

    • They all copy, borrow and steal from one another. Though people get emotional with Apple for some reason.inteliboy
    • Thats right. So we can say wathever we want, Apple wins in the end. Its a business game and they're better than the other. End of the story.Ben99
    • I find it amusing when grown adults even have the time to be so invested in a disposable consumer good.ETM
    • If I catch myself do it I try remind myself I won't give a fuck about this [insert item] in a year. Wash, rinse, repeat.ETM
    • Apple might not always have the most current everything but they rightly defined the major categories of the big ones. That's hard to do.monospaced
    • "disposable consumer good"
      ETM, arguing about which company is better is useless, but the technology itself is extremely important.
      Jaline
    • People are using this technology during all parts of their day.Jaline
    • Tell me what one is REALLY doing so different from the others that it changes your life on a daily basis?ETM
    • Browsing, email, phone calls, voicemail, apps, voice recognition, dictation, digital assistants... available everywhere by everyone.ETM
    • trueBen99
    • I don't see Apple copying as the new gadgets use the same exact design language Apple is famous for.omg
    • When Surface came out, you couldn't help but acknowledge that it was marketed to look exactly like an iPad, but with a keyboard.omg
    • Nobody cares.docpoz
    • Yup, it's all silly, but it gets tiring hearing how "revolutionary" or "innovative" Apple is. Good products, well made, leave it at that.formed
    • http://i.imgur.com/p…Peter
    • +1 etmgilgamush
    • You understand you're getting your pants in a twist over a consumer electronics brand, right Benfall? Do you also understand how ridiculous that looks?Continuity
    • people get annoyed with Apple because of the way they market other peoples ideas in a smug / dishonest way.fadein11
    • If you want to pay twice the price for the same technology in a handset that's twice as likely to break when dropped... Feel free! Hahaset
    • I want apple to fuck me and my bank account till it bleeds! I'm not a fanboy though,
      Trump2k16
      GeorgesIV
    • Benfall was just explaining how it works. Apple are better at branding and presenting a consistent unified vision of their productsyuekit
    • this is a competitive mimicry and stagnation, like when honda rolled out the new insight and it was a prius with an H.garbage
    • -agarbage
    • Apple for president!Ianbolton
  • NBQ006

    They‘re good

    • for me to poop onStoicLevels
    • What kind of life do you have whereby this is something you put time and effort into making?shapesalad
    • Well, their YT videos have millions of views and they make $$ with their channel.NBQ00
    • I enjoyed it. Well done.jagara
    • Entertainment, innit...jagara
    • mono getz strange bonerutopian
    • you try too hard to trollmonospaced
    • "what kind of life do you have..." lol
      11 million views.
      fadein11
    • The girl on the right is really going for it with the hand movementsChimp
    • absolutely insanekingsteven
  • mg3310

    Hey, do any of you have a 2017 iMac and want 40 gigs of RAM for free?

    I pulled that from my iMac before I traded it in, and I don’t need it for anything. Happy to send along to someone that could use it.

    • Just wanted to say that's an odd number for RAMpango
    • I would like 17 gigs of it, someone else can have the rest.calculator
    • 32, 64, 128, RAMs like that mang,
      40? Sounds like your talking about the flux capacitor
      GuyFawkes
    • 32 + 8monospaced
    • 16 + 16 + 4 + 4 is my guess.monospaced
    • It was 32; my numbers were off. Someone reached out - maybe one of you emailed me directly?mg33
  • StoicLevels1

    Feels wrong...

    • BitterHayzilla
    • Can you really blame Justin?utopian
    • that intel laptop tablet thing looks clunky afaliastime
    • cute how when he goes to use the apple laptop, instantly the UI looks so much nice that sharp corner clunkly awkward pc. Ever tried document browsing in pc!?shapesalad
    • He's playing both sides in a "long game" strategy. He'll be back (to Mac) in 2025 - 2030.ideaist
    • lolStoicLevels
    • document browsing on a PC is horrible. I got a surface to draw. But the finder is a mess. Apple leads there.tank02
    • Jesus, this is nuts... i'm a PC user most of the time these days but every thing they big up on PC is utter shit. Kinda desperate from intel.kingsteven
    • They have a small percentage of the gaming PC market compared to AMD these days too. A series of very odd brags.kingsteven
    • Hi I'm Just inbrt44
    • Just a real person..brt44
    • ...Feels LongStoicLevels
    • Ill use a Windows PC for a bag of money too.ArmandoEstrada
    • Intel should focus to get to 10nm and 7nm instead of doing ads. They know they’re fucked. Apple Silicon and even AMD are putting them so far behind.NBQ00
    • and AMD own ATI and ARM, Intel aren't going anywhere soon, but this sort of thing just draws attention to their plightkingsteven
    • considering apple's tiny market share, am not sure why Intel is going after Macs. AMD is the one rocketing past them.inteliboy
    • Because Intel is probably sour that Apple abandoned them as well as scared because ARM will overtake them.NBQ00
    • because the entry level macs run circles around any other lightweight laptop with an intel chip in itmonospaced
    • AMD own ARM? As in 'posess it' or 'do rather well with it'?Nairn
    • M1-style architecture will be replicated - Apple just took a lead there, and will benefit inthe medium-term, but it's not some irreproducible magic.Nairn
    • +s ffs, i'm not a snarky snake.Nairn
    • ah, it was NIVIDIA that acquired ARM, do'hkingsteven
  • mg333

    New:

    Old:

    The BenQ monitors feel smaller due to the lack of huge Apple bezel and iMac chin at the bottom. BenQ's feel more fluid going from monitor to monitor, which is nice.

    Love that the BenQ monitors are matte. Forgot how much easier that was on the eyes. Also really happy they can be raised and lowered. That was always a flaw of the iMac and Apple monitors. So, now I've got two 4k screens, which is a downgrade from the iMac, but also an upgrade from the Thunderbolt monitor.

    Lastly, I HATE THAT EXTERNAL WEB CAM RUINING THE SYMMETRY TWO MONITORS but I will get over it. It's a 4k camera and vastly better picture than any Apple FaceTime camera. I think I'm going to take it off the top and just put it below the right monitor.

    • wow, you hid all the wires, looks good.utopian
    • How are the displays, are you happy with the color and resolution?utopian
    • oh man, not as well as I'm going to. I can still see them when sitting down. At least I bought nice braided fabric wires. :Dmg33
    • Yeah, they're fine. They came pre-calibrated, didn't have to do anything to them. I grew used to glossy monitors, but these are easier on the eyes.mg33
    • Is that an illusion or is it sittng on your ipad?dbloc
    • oh it's a reflection that got me for a minute.dbloc
    • ^ ha! It was nice to all get rid of the wooden riser on the right side.mg33
    • NOW let's talk about cleaning up that Dock AND menu bar!

      https://macmenubar.c…

      ; )

      Looking rad.
      ideaist
    • Funny you mention that - I use Bartender on my work laptop but never had it on my iMac before. And thanks!mg33
    • sorry but why 2 keyboards/mice?dkoblesky
    • can you not put the external webcam in the middle of both monitors?_niko
    • you could, quite easily, install a tray under the desk in the back where you can store your Mac mini and exernal drives. It would take further to tidy it upmonospaced
    • why x2 keyboards and mice?shapesalad
    • Thanks Mono - eventually I will do something like that.mg33
    • RE: two keyboards/mice: my setup includes the Mac mini for home use, and my work laptop for work use. in the before photo, the iMac was home computermg33
    • and the apple monitor was used for the work laptop. Better setup now, easier to go dual monitor on either computer as soon as I get ONE more cable. :Dmg33
    • you could do what the kids do and use neon lightingStoicLevels
    • Nicer with the plain wall behind too IMO.mort_
    • congrats man, looking good. hope you're happy. love the symmetry to be honest. and that black tele as well ;-)oey_oey
    • Nice setup!PhanLo
    • Thanks guys! Liking it so far. Still frustrated I can't download PS beta because CC desktop app keeps freezing. Oh well.mg33
    • LR Classic works and that's what I use the most. I've got full creative suite on my work laptop if I need it.mg33