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- prophetone4
You simply can't please everyone.
And at the end of the day (and this is where it's gets ridiculous in context of life and the human race) we're talking about a phone.
- and the decline of the world's biggest company :)fadein11
- lol@fadeinutopian
- it's not just a phone. it's whole lot of stuff.iCanHazQBN
- well obviously. but not really. point is when you look back on this in 20 years how will you describe it all. people fussing over a phone. and why the fuss?prophetone
- lol so true.sofakingback
- I'm not making a fuss - they are lolfadein11
- #wakeupsheepleORAZAL
- I'm still on 4S :)bklyndroobeki
- Some of you sound like grandma. "Haaa? What's all this fuss about a phone.?" Just give me my Razr from 2003.CyBrainX
- errrm, what's that deaaar?prophetone
- hah, was just reminiscing on the Razr! https://www.cellular…bklyndroobeki
- nb2
I notice the same double-standard with everything, even with how Apple presents it's new products. With Steve, every product announcement was overdramatized, everything was "this new AMAAAAZING product" and there were rock bands performing at product announcements and all kinds of circus shit. Many people really made fun of Apple for that. Now, the product announcements are more subtle, less boastful, and people are like, "Oh Apple announcements are not the same without Steve."
- eh? Apple launches were always cringeworthy - Jobs used to make me want to vomit... but the products were new and interesting.fadein11
- chillax - it's not your company - people can have a viewpoint. It aint the company it used to be - fact.fadein11
- "less boastful" lol.fadein11
- Apple followed the market with 6, they used to lead the market... and it's happening more and more with them.fadein11
- I agree that Steve's presence made the company produce great things. But, there is only so much innovation to be had.nb
- iPad Pro is pretty innovative, no? I'd say it's leading the market.nb
- really? I would say Surface Pro is leading that market i.e. having an OS pro's want/need to use - not a stripped back mobile OS.fadein11
- Most people don't want a "real" OS.nb
- why is it called Pro then? a bigger screen?fadein11
- A rose gold tablet by any other name would smell as sweet.nb
- nb2
Apple can't win because half the people want one thing and half want the opposite, but 99% of us love to complain.
iPhone 6 gets released, half the people complain, "Why doesn't Apple make a new phone like the 5?! That was a much better design!"
So then Apple responds by giving these customers exactly what they're asking for, and you get half the people complaining that it's not innovative enough.
- There in lies the problem. When the fuck did Jobs give people what they wanted?
People are idiots and don't know what they want. They need to be told.sofakingback - "Here is the newest greatest apple thing, because we think its badass. if you like it great if you don't fuck off"sofakingback
- isn't that what made them an awesome company? Isn't that what makes all innovative companies awesome?sofakingback
- This whole going back to a previous design though is something Steve never would have approved. It's incredibly lazy.iCanHazQBN
- There in lies the problem. When the fuck did Jobs give people what they wanted?
- nb0
- monospaced0
Apple has responded to the latest filing from the Department of Justice saying that if the government is unable to succeed in unlocking the device on its own, Apple will demand to know everything about the method by which it tried.
- Maaku0
Maybe they will release a new phone because this?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mob…- Good for them.pango
- Whats funny about this is that all that information is useless now.sofakingback
- Also, it made the US government seem so weak and stupid. You can't even break into one fuckin phone? Really? So you put it on blast and let the world know?sofakingback
- inteliboy0
funny how companies like samsung can release all sorts of phones all the time... no one cares... they have something like 20-30 phones on the market.. most are rehashed plastic shit from years ago. Though god forbid Apple update just one of their phones. It's a big deal guise, seriously.
- Most Samsung phones are buy one get one free too.monospaced
- expectation of them is lower.pango
- I don't think so pangomonospaced
- Samsung et al don't strive so hard to put on such an overly-considered public persona, so don't go out inviting ire from fan and foe alike.detritus
- Additionally, much of the comparison is with google and not Samsung as they actually provide the majority of the experience beyond hardware.monospaced
- People only care about apple because they reinvented the cellular phone and in doing so, many ways the way we interact with technology.monospaced
- Personally I feel that's not something that happens often in a single lifetime.monospaced
- They did it once and it won't be easily forgotten. Even I can recognize that nothing they do will ever be that impactful again.monospaced
- eh? 20-30 phones? can you send me a brochure - I would love to see all these phones... Samsung are a v.different company - bizarre comment.fadein11
- Samsung has 150 phones right now. 175, actually.nb
- 238 according to the Samsung website. But what would I know?monospaced
- http://www.samsung.c…
Probably much less but it's still a lot.monospaced - Totally irrelevant - I think the point is an Apple new product used to be something to get excited about - not a smaller screen.fadein11
- To be clear, besides the very first iPhone and iPad releases what releases are you talking about?monospaced
- Because beside that and maybe the first iMac or aluminum laptop, everything else for the last 20 years has been screen and spec changes.monospaced
- perhaps the iPod or the iTunes Store?monospaced
- duh - the iPod? no????
iMac?
Macbook Pro blew the competition out the window.
What planet are you on?fadein11 - Of course the fucking iPod - they built all their success on that prior to the phone.fadein11
- Although I actually hated every one I owned lol.fadein11
- so, you're talking about 5 things in 20 years.... got it.monospaced
- And zero things in 5 years.fadein11
- If they didn't talk themselves up so much I wouldn't actually give a shit.fadein11
- are they talking it up outside the actual keynote speeches, or are you just talking about fanboy and hater chatter? I'm actually not that tuned inmonospaced
- I despise their sickly marketing that regularly borders on lies which the sheeple happily lap up... look I don't lie in bed thinking about it lolfadein11
- and as I have said I love a lot of what they do but God their marketing is so much bullshit - like a Jedi mind trick with short depth of field.fadein11
- hmmm, I never really saw their ads as much more than some sort of lifestyle promotions, but I really don't see them muchmonospaced
- fade, their own website lists 45 phones... http://www.samsung.c…inteliboy
- also, apple's keynotes and advertising are full of smug hyperbole... just like every damn other company on the face of the earth.inteliboy
- Hype sells and make money. only the weak minded gets influenced by jedi mind trick. "this is the phone you were looking for" ?pango
- shaft0
Am I the only one disappointed that instead of launching an actual smaller iPhone 6s they rebadged iPhone 5 again with a new sticker?
Not that I was going to buy a 4" phone anyway, shouldn't complain.
- i know ppl that are stoked.
The boxier frame was better for holding.
And now it has better battery and same specs as 6s. Its just not for you.err - ummm... the 5SE is a smaller 6s, except for 3D touchmonospaced
- Does it come with a free U2 album?fadein11
- Comes with a free KICK ME sign taped to your back.instrmntl
- Copy, Paste, Regurgitate...by Apple
"Innovation Never Sleeps"utopian - It's a 5 with a faster processor. It looks like a 5, even monospaced calls it a 5SE.shaft
- i know ppl that are stoked.
- randommail0
More of the same. The whole industry. We used to lament beige plastic. Now it's aluminum and glass.
- Ianbolton0
Why would they release a new phone in May? Does this mean we're now going to see yearly incremental updates to a shittier new phone every May, then the usual iPhone 7 released in October for their yearly updates? Maybe they could release a Christmas iPhone? What the fuck is the point? It's like they don't actually give a shit about innovation, just overall market gain.
- Money is all they truly care about, so yeah, market dominanceformed
- from now on you buy two new phones every year.mekk
- Maybe it's because they had their first YoY iPhone sales decline?zarkonite
- a ton of people are still on smaller iPhones, so it's like '...hey! HEY! It's the same dinky phone you love but with new bits inside! COOL!'face_melter
- They don't only do it once a year. They've had many June releases, and September/October too.monospaced
- ^ and that's why a lot of people will buy italiastime
- Does anybody know if the battery will last longer than a day?Ianbolton
- hans_glib0
while i'm a great fan of the se/5 size, it's a shame they couldn't be arsed to redesign the case, and make it a little curvier (à la iphone 3).
but i suppose that would require someone at apple to actually give a damn and fight for the budget, rather than just cashing in on existing tooling.
#maketheshareholdersrichagain
- BusterBoy1
Very difficult for anyone at Apple now to be anywhere near as effective as Jobs. Jobs was deeply invested in the company...emotionally & financially. He had skin in the game. Although the company wasn't "his", he had a significant stake and felt it was his right to exercise control over the company. Add to that he was clearly a visionary and you have a might powerful combination.
- Yeah, it seems that they are severely drifting idealistically with incredibly bland people in charge. No-one has that spark to drag things forward.face_melter
- In terms of R&D they are great, but they seem to just release the same 3 products every year with spec bumps.face_melter
- How is it that they're great at R&D if it only yields incremental gains?zarkonite
- Theres alot of stuff in R&D that hasn't come out yet. Apple waits for it to be a thing. then they come out with a better version and charge more for it.err
- I'd suggest that Apple was exactly 'his', technicalities of ownership aside.detritus
- Their work with precision milling, metallurgy etc. is what I mean, their design R&D is pure pishflaps.face_melter
- Aslo, he had the ability to get things past the dream crushers making financial decisions. No way Tim Cook orsofakingback
- anyone else can push the boundaries and get it made. It requires sacrifice and risk... in this case money. And guess what corporate drones love most? Money.sofakingback
- so good bye, innovation.sofakingback
- docpoz0
I'm not going to say Steve Jobs was irreplaceable but guys with his vision and understanding of computer trends don't come around often.
- idk, Jobs would have had to face the same problems with Apple growing so big and going full mainstream.mekk
- You don't think he had those issues to deal with in his last 5 years? The landscape seems about the same to me.
I could be wrong, is it different now?sofakingback - They have way more markets and people are more willing to spend $500 on a phone than five years ago imomekk
- Really? I thought all that was established by then... They're a bigger company now thats for sure.sofakingback
- sofakingback3
So after seeing Apple use previous designs for the iPad pro 2 and the SE...
Is it safe to say they peaked when jobs died?
This shit sucks... and so does the solution for this rechargeable mouse.
wtf
- lol. faildocpoz
- b... but it takes a few minutes to charge! Fuck me. One of the worst meeces I have ever used. Like pointing with a brick.face_melter
- Hahahahapango
- They... couldn't have it in the front, so it goes into USB mode whilst it charges, so you can still use it? That seems... fuckit, outright fucking stupid.detritus
- this is so stupidmonospaced
- I got one at the office the other day, utterly fucking retarded. No excuses whatsoever..set
- I've got one of these....works like a charm!
Worth every penny!!!!!
http://www.mobeetech…utopian - lol that happened to my mouse today while at work. Epic fail.antonyjwhite
- so basically, when it needs a charge and you still have 6 hours of work ahead... you have to find another mouse?prophetone
- 2-hour charge = 1 month use, and the battery will be monitored by the computer, so all you have to do is plug it in once in awhile.monospaced
- They're no longer dishing out innovation like it was fast food. I think for reasons that they've no protection against copycats.omg
- still stupid design, and I can't stand this mouse form factormonospaced
- PIITBsublocked
- Like I said, I have the "Magic Charger" two magic mice with an extra Magic Mouse rechargeable battery. I'm never without a mouse...ever.utopian
- i have a box of original wired Pro mouses, they are still the bomb, never failprophetone
- Sorry, mono - there's no defending this.
At all.
I'm bewildered that Apple would make this decision.detritus - I'm assuming that last note was Detritus. You know we can't see your username on mobile when you use separate lines like that?set
- Though you're the only cunt that does it so I always know.set
- Iset
- alwaysset
- knowset
- Anyway back to the mouse, I'm planning to have it run out at about 4pm once a month so I can go home two hours earlyset
- I wasn't defending it! I've shit on it at least twice here.monospaced
- But even a dumb shit like yuri can plug in a mouse once a month before leaving the office when the computer says the battery is low. Jeezmonospaced
- Lord Jeez would be dissappointset
- The "innovation" apple would have come up with a new design and make it wireless charging. That would have been on par with their brand. Not this. its oversofakingback
- Totally agree. This makes my eye twitch because of how anti design it is. It is literally a sacrifice in function for a look.monospaced
- Like a dead mice...pango
- or a bottombklyndroobeki
- face_melter0
Maybe they should innovate some shirts that fit or maybe a belt - all the dudes on stage look like they play in some lousy pub band who only do Fleetwood Mac and Steely Dan covers.
- utopian0
Carl Icahn Dumps $700 Million In Apple Stock As iPhone Bet Sours
One year ago, Carl Icahn thought Apple could do no wrong. Now he’s selling.
- utopian0
Apple shuffles iPad Air 2, iPad mini prices
http://www.technobuffalo.com/201…
"Innovation Never Sleeps"
- Thanks for all the time and effort you are putting into slamming Apple. Looks like time well spent!jaylarson
- utopian0
- small ipad pro is just a normal ipad, right?autoflavour
- But you can use the iCrayon on that one!zarkonite
- wow, Apple is now lifting lines from MS to talk up their products... They must be doing some damage with the Surface.zarkonite
