Beer Glass Graphic ?
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- deathboy
A client wants me to take a 4c color graphic and apply it to a 3c tumbler. Im unfamilair with the printing abilities and prep on this. Are the 3 colors 100% screens? Do i need too prep the files as 3 layered monotones or a single tricolor psd?
Its a photograph/illustrative piece... And not sure exactly the best way to reproduce this for a glass. Dont do too much collateral like this so any production advice would help. Details i have is size and 3 color. The piece is primarily black/white shades of gray in between and a green. So a simple base 3 color would work if glass printing wasnt 100% color... but not sure...anyone with tips or help id appreciate the input.
- pango0
Who's the printer? Ask them.
- albums0
"The piece is primarily black/white shades of gray in between"
First thought: Convert your grays into halftones before your printer does it for you in a way you don't like.
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Trapping, It matters in this game.
- deathboy0
Dont know the printer. Just got a size and 3 color. Whats the best way to convert psd elements to halftones? Like is there a bitmap photoshop equivalent or am i gonna be saving images out and using scriptographer for the halftones. I thoguht the photoshop halftones were rubbish... And if you say halftones im guessing the 3 colors are at 100%.
Im tempted to fold on the graphics and stick primarily with the vector text if i cant find a way to get the graphic to look good.
- deathboy0
thats the graphic.if that triggers any good ideas in making that a 3 color glass graphic. a bit out of my element on the collateral production of this
- albums0
"Whats the best way to convert psd elements to halftones? Like is there a bitmap photoshop equivalent or am i gonna be saving images out and using scriptographer for the halftones. I thought the photoshop halftones were rubbish."
one way: http://www.photoshopsupport.com/…
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"And if you say halftones im guessing the 3 colors are at 100%."
I'm not the printer but screen printing is an all or nothing technique, the ink goes through the screen or not, hence the half-toning and screen angle preparation
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"Im tempted to fold on the graphics and stick primarily with the vector text if i cant find a way to get the graphic to look good."
That's kind of your job, it's most everyone's job here. (that's why we're called professionals) Which brings me to my next point... Why'd you even start in PS? Don't answer. It's one of those questions that should make you ashamed of yourself.
- im not too familair with hands on production techniques. and im not ashamed, can only know what i knowdeathboy
- and i thought a vector screen using scriptographer might be better than photoshops halftone, but if that works cooldeathboy
- you can play with the halftone options for best effectalbums
- cool thxdeathboy
- monNom0
A lot will depend on how your printer wants the files. Two possibilities are multi-channel raster PSD/DCS and halftone bitmaps in an eps/ai file.
Multi-channel raster:
Your printer may want to do the halftone prep themselves, so you give them a multi-channel raster file.
Create a new RGB or CMYK file and change colour mode to Multi-channel.
Isolate the colours in your source artwork 1 by 1 and drag those into the multi-channel document's channel palette. You can double click the channel thumbnail to set the channel colour. Once everything looks okay in the file, Save as a PSD or DCS file.Halftone bitmaps:
Call your printer and find out line-screen and angles before you convert bitmaps. They should be able to tell you how they want the files prepped. If not, find another printer!Isolate each colour in your design as a greyscale (channel style, so full colour is full black). Convert to 1200dpi bitmap (image>mode>bitmap), using the info you got from the printer before. With all channels converted to bitmap, save them individually as .eps or .tiff bitmaps (1bit per pixel), and pull them into illustrator/indesign/quark/whate... Place each file one on top of the other and set the ink colour you want just like you would a vector shape. Check your overprints in case some colours need to knock-out. Save as an .eps and send to the printer.
- halftone = bitmap in case that isn't clear.monNom
- omfgmonospaced
- pango0
seriously. find out about your printer first.
- deathboy0
printer = Jack Nadel International
linescreen = 60-70 depending on the artwork@monNom you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. would it even be worth trying at that linescreen? I cant quite imagine it.and the file is a bunch of layers why im asking instead of doing all that production. Thanks
- deathboy0
printer = Jack Nadel International
linescreen = 60-70 depending on the artwork@monNom you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. would it even be worth trying at that linescreen? I cant quite imagine it.and the file is a bunch of layers why im asking instead of doing all that production. Thanks
- that's typical for silkscreen. Halftone Quality will be comparable to other glassware/stickers/e... (ie: not great)monNom
- ie: not great.monNom
- Thx monNom. Think i'll just skip using it. Im pretty sure most of the detail will be lost and thats what was cool about it on the printdeathboy
- the print which it was mainly for (mono)deathboy
- monospaced0
pango is right, just talk to the printer. They'll probably create screens for you, in three colors, from your artwork. That's what they do. You never know, but I think sending halftone PSDs is ridiculous and inefficient.
- if PSD, they convert to halftone, so you'd send 300dpi (or 150) as 8bit/channel. Not halftones.monNom
- monospaced0
1) Design in Illustrator, with 3 spot colors
2) Set tints (screen density)
3) Send to printer
4) Shoot yourself for using Photoshop- < elitist printer guy. noone likes them very muchCygnusZero4