Adobe CS6 "Creative Cloud"
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- mirrorball0
more importantly, are all the Apps 64bit now on both Mac & PC?
- BozMan0
So this one year license will allow me to use this software on 2 computers and a Tablet? So that mean $59.99 a month will cover my iMac + MacbookPro + iPad?
iMac + MacbookPro + iPad = $59.99 a month = $600 a year?!!? that sounds like a great deal.
- lol, who said it works on a tablet? hahahahahahahahahah!monospaced
- "touch apps" thats what i meantBozMan
- fyoucher10
Re:OSFA
It checks every month and at that point, you need to be connected so it can check your subscription. Otherwise, it's exactly like how it was before. You still download the software (massive files) and install it. Essentially, they're trading a serial number for a subscription, whereas a serial number can be hacked / patched but a subscription is based on your Adobe ID and how many devices you have it paired with (right now it's 3 devices per subscription but you can only have one app open at a time across all devices).
I like it a lot, and it's cheap. The fact that you have access to all apps and it's easy to update is nice.
- prophetone0
yes, and they throw in some spicy extras to make things interesting
- OSFA0
So, fyoucher1 it's pretty much an anti-pirate move.
Now, do you download the apps or work from the cloud? And why would you need 20GB of space? I usually save stuff to my computer or HDs.
Again, pardon my ignorance but like I said, I never got to check out CC. I know.. I sound like an old man.
Another question, how about agencies? How does it work then? Does the office pay for everyone and everyone gets and account? Do you have to pay for your own?
- i pay for it on my credit card and expense it every month...works out fine...exador1
- <---this is what I do through my companyKnuckleberry
- you use apps normally and the 20GB is to store your files for collaboration and hostingmonospaced
- robotron3k0
this will put a whole new spin on losing internet connection in the middle of a deadline. I'm sure corporate IT will LOVE this too...
- so, it's a fact you need an internet connection to even USE it?monospaced
- no doubt, cloud right? could you imagine a whole floor of ad people being cut off!!robotron3k
- Nightmarepillhead
- fyoucher10
I wouldn't necessarily say anti-pirate move, but giving a wider offering of apps and also giving a way to pay monthly rather than having to dish out $3k for the master suite or other big chunk of change for another suite all at once.
I would think the folks who would mostly be affected by this would be those who are used to buying ONLY one app like Photoshop and only upgrade every few years. I would imagine there are way more folks who use more than a single app and that the price range is more than reasonable.
It'll prolly help with piracy but that's bound to get hacked one way or another.
20GB of space: think of that like DropBox. It has nothing to do with how the software works. Its just a place to store your work in the cloud if you want to. I don't use it, just save to my drive like I normally do.
Agencies: They have Creative Cloud for Teams, although I'm not sure how that works exactly. I'd imagine there'd be some kind of discount for purchasing in bulk.
- This is 90% an anti-piracy move, matey. I'm dead in the water.CyBrainX
- Ianbolton0
I'm trying to convince my boss that we either don't need to update CS to CC, or certainly don't waste the money on updating Quark 9 to 10 and use inDesign for everything. Is the creative cloud worth the update from CS5? Everything works for us, although we're getting a lot of documents coming through that use CC that we then have to ask for them to be saved down.
Why are individual and business rates so different?
- Businesses already pay to stay legal... It's individuals who pirate that they want to tempt into paying,Amicus
- OSFA0
Nice, thanks sir. Last question (probably not true but whatever...).
So, when you pay, you get to download the apps? What happens if you don't renew? Can you still use them?
Also, what happens if they decide to charge $120/month out of the blue? Are you obligated to keep paying?
Sorry for all the questions!
- if you don't renew, your subscription is up and the software doesn't workmonospaced
- ... and they could decide to fuck you any time they want.zarkonite
- well, that's not true if you know anything about what Adobe's plans aremonospaced
- I'm listening monospaced...OSFA
- then you knowmonospaced
- I can tell you that their plans are not to increase prices out of the blue that's for suremonospaced
- animatedgif0
Why the christ would you be using Dreamweaver in this day and age.
Even just using it as a code editor is a joke.
LOL!
http://www.underconsideration.co…- It is handy for its sitewide search&replaces and table based layouts (for html emails)raf
- any good text editor does project wide search+replace.
Ok, table based stuff maybe its good for that but not worth the $$$.animatedgif - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...animatedgif
- Bloated as it is, it has features useful in some situations (cleaning up Word/Excel html), pour data into tables, etc.raf
- Good to have as a second editor, especially that now comes with the full package.raf
- I dig the new boxes. It's different and a new start. I can see this becoming an Adobe competition in the future.fyoucher1
- The auto-complete code capabilities in DW are better than any other editor I can find.nocomply
- image map tool is handy.monNom
- Used DW for 12 years. What you sayin?HAYZ1LLLA
- animatedgif0
Maybe without having to draw people in with each update cycle with showboat features they can now sit back and fix the fucking things and work on actually useful features instead of PHOTOSHOP 3D!!!.
- qTime0
Honestly who the fck actually bought the CS suit part from companies?
Perhaps if they made it cheaper people would buy it.
- it's only $50 a month for the whole collection, so yeah, tons of individuals are subscribersmonospaced
- ernexbcn0
I don't think you need a constant internet connection. You can play Steam games without internet connection, you do need to connect every once in a while but I'm sure it allows you to be offline for days and still use the apps.
- this makes sensemonospaced
- I hope that's right.alicetheblue
- SHame it's Adobe not Valve running it : SMrT
- ohhhhhsnap0
Just me or has Cloud been screwing up lately?
Lots of down time. Looking at their Please Wait screen for 45 minutes.
- uan0
just the sync (creative cloud connection) is down for good. otherwise no problems here.
http://status.creativecloud.com/…
- CyBrainX0
CS5 is now 3 versions ago. I'm sure you can imagine there have been some improvements since then. You won't even be able to handle assets from other vendors and freelancers if you don't upgrade at least every other version.
- improvements are usually really minor though, let's face it...Miguex
- detritus0
I've recently signed up to fucking CC for PS and Illy, primarily because I receive a lot of files from a wide variety of clients, and so need to be able to open the files, which are increasingly sent as CC.
My use for Illy and PS hasn't changed, nor will do (because I only ever work with strokes and single-colour fills, no fancy gradients, strokes, etc etc for me) for years to come, but because of file troubles, I'm now bound to the modern equivalent of their yearly upgrade cycle.
Excellent.
Yes, I could just demand clients saved in legacy formats, or flatten everything and ensure PDF-compatability's turned on, but that's sometimes flakey anyway, and it puts a dissuasionary barrier between me and my clients.
So basically, I'm paying a subscription to continue doing the exact same work I can do with my paid-for edition of version Illy/PS 10.
Thanks, Adobe.
- Admittedly I'm possibly a somewhat outlier use case, but still - I fucking hate the subscription mechanicdetritus
- ..and as soon as an able competitor rears its head, I'll be off like a flash.
Rip-off bastards.detritus - but you're making $, and it's not even half of a cell phone billmonospaced
- ernexbcn0
I have CS5, got it from a friend who worked in Adobe, was 70€ ~ the whole suite.
All owners of CS 3 > get a 20 bucks discount monthly on these new apps.
- For one year. Then $50. Then whateverthefucktheys...ArmandoEstrada
- raf0
^ 2 computers, but can't be used at the same time.