Freemasonry

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  • davebellechique0

    then ask yourself why you want to be part of anything "more" besides humanity.

    • Freemasons are lizards, silly - everyone knows that.detritus
    • Cant be President if you're not a Mason.instrmntl
  • BaskerviIle0

    someone's just read some Dan Brown

  • monospaced0

    No Dan Brown. I wasn't even asking "how" to become a member. I was just intrigued and wanted to see if anyone else had any insight (but I'm out of luck there). I know very little about it, but I've seen the temples and I know that there have been a lot of famous Masons in history. That's all. Some people are seriously harsh around here.

    • Pot, meet Kettle.detritus
    • I don't go around insulting people on QBN, though.monospaced
    • Man, dont take it so seriously and if they harsh and cant give you a good answer or give you a link it shoes their level of classnumero1
    • < are
      *shows

      I was touch typing lol :P
      numero1
  • Continuity0

    How to recognise a Freemason, according to Monty Python:

  • set0

    98% of Freemasons don't even know what Freemasons are.

    • no shit man,
      I can honestly say that 99.9% of people don't know what freemasonry is.
      georgesIII
  • PersonaNonGrata0

    'If you want in they wont have you'

    Actual they started doing an open house for the New York lodge due to poor new member intake. That was a number of years ago - I was always interested, but I am not white... and live in the south for half the year

  • discoduro0

  • jruggs0

    I lived in an apartment above a mason 'temple'...they had all kinds of swords, tools and latex gloves..

    weird shit to say the least!

    i know for a fact alot of civil servants and 'important' ppl of society were members, including the cop who arrested me.

    They had a dinner in a big hall on the first floor once a week and all wore tuxedos with tails ..always smelled like ham and cabbage

  • WrappedInBooks0

    You're better off going to Yale an joining Skull and Bones.

  • EightyDeuce0
  • EightyDeuce0

    There's an app for that

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  • scarabin0

    several of the members of my OTO lodge are masons, and my OTO sponsor (who is also the archbishop of the order) is a master mason and a member of the scottish rite.

    the masons (any any initiatory system) are set up so anyone can join; it doesn't matter who you are. if you don't make progress you simply won't rise in rank, learn more secrets and become part of the inner circles.

    just a warning though, most masons i meet are crazy rednecks and losers looking for a group that will accept them

    • What's an OTO lodge? I was just curious because so many smart people have been involved over the centuries.monospaced
    • Templar? Is it that different?monospaced
    • OTO and the order of the templar are different groups. OTO is Ordo Templi Orientis, created by crowleyscarabin
    • the templar nowadays are actually a group of masons "the masonic order of the templar" who resurrected the group in the 1800sscarabin
    • 1800s. not sure if they hold any true templar secrets, but i highly doubt itscarabin
    • i own a ceremonial frock coat made for the templar in the 1800s that i use in certain ceremoniesscarabin
    • ancient masonry is stemmed from what was once the knight's templar. however it is speculative as to whether to 2 are really connectedWeLoveNoise
    • are really connectedWeLoveNoise
    • This is the kind of discussion I was hoping for.monospaced
    • too bad its all bullshitson
    • you don't even know their secrets, son. you haven't worked your way to the center.scarabin
    • the moment you physically step in a lodge you know you'll never be a masonson
    • Were you rejected, son?monospaced
    • lol nope, i was invited thoson
    • step into a lodge and never be a mason? the fuck are you talking about, son?scarabin
  • gramme0

    Swords, secrets, arcane rituals, founding fathers. Sounds more like a whodunnit novel than anything to be taken seriously.

    But hey, what do I know. I worship the spaghetti monster.

    • I thought you were fairly religious. Christianity is full of swords, secrets, arcane rituals and founding fathers too. :)monospaced
    • Touche.gramme
    • But we don't use any of those things in worship.gramme
    • Unless one considers things like a call to worship, confession of sin, and communion arcane.gramme
    • worship? lol...son
    • they are all ritual tools. christians are some of the biggest users of magick in the worldscarabin
    • Baptism to communion seem quite ritualistic, especially to an outsider. Catholics of course, take it to a different level.monospaced
    • Anyway, we can't possible compare religion and Freemasonry. It's not fair to either.monospaced
    • Magick? What are you smoking, scarabin? There's no magic, magick, faery dust, pixie sticks, zilch.gramme
    • calm down. "Magick" refers to a ritualized process intended to affect a given change.scarabin
    • when it's spelled with a K it doesn't refer to pixie dust or whateverscarabin
  • frost2150

    Masons are a serious brotherhood. My Grandad was the oldest and highest ranking Mason in the Philippines before he passed several years ago. it was a part of his life and I can honestly say, he wasn't a lizard, he wasn't a rich white man or a redneck, and he was a really good and fair man.

    When we went back for his funeral we got escorted by a mason to walk through customs and by pass all the long lines. He got a casket that was reserved for wealthy folks in the philippines practically for free. Also, he told me that if he needed help for anything, he can stand at this 1 corner near his house and act out a secret thing and help will be immediately summoned.

    I am curious in joining the Philly lodge. Which has an awesome masonic temple in the middle of the city.

    Alot of people make fun/ridicule what they don't know.

    • yeah, i know some fine onesscarabin
    • Same here. My Grandfather has been one for 50 years. Simple farming man. It's very much based around community and brotherhood.discoduro
    • brotherhood as you say. I'm actually the first in my family besides him to take a real interest in it. Mainly becasue many in my family didn't get it.discoduro
    • many in my family didn't get it.discoduro
  • identity0

    Arnold Palmer is a 33degree Freemason.
    Upon finding this out during research for the campaign I was Art Directing for his tournament - I strategically hid signs of the illuminati.

    See if you can find them

  • son0

    The Big Apple and The Big Pentagram

    There are still many that do not know the connection between the Apple and the Pentagram. Without such knowledge the occult significance behind many important things appropriately related, remains totally hidden. There is a reason an Apple was used to signify the temptation being brought to Eve and Adam. Again We cannot stress this story is completely allegory and should only be taken for its deeper meaning. Eve is the root to Evening, and we talked about what Adam means.

    “The Pen “Pentagram” is mightier than the Sword my Lord”, We will see. The Apple itself when cut down the middle displays a Pentagram in the center. Thus, those that worked the magic of the Pentagram where sure to keep it under the symbolism of the Apple. One bad Apple, spoils the whole bunch, especially if its a Big Apple.

    We will clear up some of the Etymology and origins of the Apple/Pentagram. Ultimately the Mathematics of the Pentagram lead to another dimension but of course it is being trafficked amongst the wise and profane alike so thus the residents of that world which exist whether one believes or not, has leaked into this one. This world can be considered the alternate reality to an Illusion if you find yourself in one. When a person is in an illusion and then is approached by something form a “real reality”, the results are generally irreversible. We will get more into this later but know that on every planet in this system there exist a fractal of you.

    What is hidden? They will say the upright Apple stands for the Goddess Core and at that point they have lost most in fairy land. Core is meant as (Quar) such as Quarry a place where stone is squared, Quarentine (Penned Up), Quaternary, etc. These are once again building blocks being used on this particular dimension. This is also why the Simplexes are of such great value to bridge the gaps in the mind when it comes to connecting Esoteria. Pentagrams are used as building blogs now and I will show how it all works.

    As this is still the Star of Inanna/Venus and all the related characters it is of value to know the Celts looked no further than Morrigan as their meaning to this star. They used it as a way to contact her as it is often used as a way to contact the parallel inverse, in this case it is inverted. Generally a person from this world is replaced with a person from that world. Sort of like a hijacking or body snatching to accompany realm dynamics which doesn’t allow two identical existences to come in physical contact with each other on the same dimensions. This is said to cause implosion or explosion. In the event of explosion the force would be just as great as any atomic collision.

    To make it more clear, if something is to be brought here from any parallel world something most leave this Plane with the exact same makeup when it comes to density, energy etc. This often happens to initiated movie stars, they are at times not who they appear in flesh and swap out often. The skin is similar to the crust of the Earth. If you pull back the skin you will see the innerworkings to everything. Imagine how people would look if they had no skin. So it is the same thing with the center of the Earth but more correctly, were it leads, if you pull off the surface layer of our Planet, you must brace yourself for what is about to be exposed.

    Golden Mean Pentagram

    What we continuously discover is that whether upright or upside down this star is always at the forefront of the most sinister things taking place on this dimension and there is a big reason for this.

    So being in the “know” tells you the Big Apple is really the Big Pentagram. This is the Land of Oz (Ozman/Osman/Turks). What I’m saying is since New York has a Pentagram drawn out over its entire land mass it would make it one big Portal. I have so much on this I will have to wait for the show, but just know when the towers where taken out of the dimension, along with Building 7 :-) , something else of the same mass, density, etc. came in.

    Lucky Luciano – Luc Luc

    Here is a prime example of how things work. Lucky mean Luc-Key or Lucifer’s Key. Lucky Luciano was not just a mob boss like often depicted. His rough features lend no credit to his in depth involvement with the Diaboli and Cosa Nostra. Born Salvator Lucania, (SAL means Sepent as in Salamander), he was brought to the scene by Arnold The Brain “Roth”stein. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arn… The individuals involved carry such names as Rich Cohen and here is an excerpt from wiki just to give a wiff of what this is all about.

    “According to Rich Cohen, Rothstein was the person who first saw in Prohibition a business opportunity, a means to enormous wealth, who “understood the truths of early century capitalism (hypocrisy, exclusion, greed) and came to dominate them”. Rothstein was the Moses of the Jewish gangsters, according to Cohen, the progenitor, a rich man’s son who showed the young hoodlums of the Bowery how to have style; indeed, the man who, the Sicilian-American gangster Lucky Luciano would later say, “taught me how to dress.”

    Going further Lucky joins the “5 Points Gang” symbolizing the Penta. Once his feet are wet he states the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire. This shows his connection to the Osmans.

    The Jewish Mafia are not only crime bosses they do have Sorcerers in their ranks and handle business as such.

    The modern Lying Priest

    Another example is Lyor Cohen (Lying Priest) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyo… who is solely responsible for bringing great poison into the music industry to pollute the minds. Those under him include Jay-Z, Slayer, Nas and the Beastie Boys just to name a few. Lyor carries the nickname “Lansky”. Those who know the esoteric meaning of Lance know Lance means to penetrate someone with your phallus. Lancelot has the same meaning.

    We will go from the foundation.

    They have the Sword or the S-WORD but they don’t have the TONE or S-TONE.

    The story of the Sword in the Stone is known by just about everyone from childhood. The story is simple, whoever can pull the Sword from the Stone is the Chosen King. This tale has served as a prototype in the occult in many cases to determine who will be the leader based on ordination of the God, not man.

    As with everything the story is shrouded in so much symbology even those who think they get the gist of its meaning tend to be very far off. With tales of the Prince and Lancelot once again the person is left in Fairy Tale Land, are you starting to see the trend here?

    What is really occurring is actually rooted in Ancient Hebrew tradition. Modern Judaism contains only small pieces of the beliefs of the Ancient Hebrews because the Ancient Hebrews are still in diaspora and have seen not only their so-called Promised Land hijacked, but also their entire culture assimilated by Russians. It is a fact that the remnants of the Hebrews remain even till this day in Ethiopia and various other territories even the Americas.

    This can also be confirmed in the Annuals of new Israel who are still very adamant about letting Ethiopians into the Holy Land, they simply do not want them there, it is a racial issue. However anytime they have discovered anything related to their beloved Solomon, Sheba, and even the Christ, its off to Lower Egypt called Nubia to read the oldest volumes on the topic such as the Kebra Nagast and the Ethiopian Book of Enoch.

    Kebra Nagast

    The reason it is of value to bring all this up is to show the root of the lie so the truth can be more clear. For all races, there is nothing to gain when one displaces anothers culture. In that event they leave both factions confused as to their origins. When this happens, historian, scholars, initiates, and many others are forced to attempt to bridge the gaps of the inconsistencies and misplaced treachery. The end result is simply more confusion, lies, and even the worst....assimilation.

    “Real” Plagiarization


    So here it is, if Enoch was of darker skin tone why do all these New Age Enochians act as if they are Neo-Nazi Physconauts discovering an extra terrestrial language given to them by Arian gods? This is something that anyone can catch them doing, red handed, right now, all the time.

    The originators of the New Enochian Movement themselves, such as Aliester Crowley, received there induction in the knowledge through the Ethiopian Books of Enoch mainly through the 13th Fallen Angel Barakiel.

    To correct this term “fallen” before we get too far into this it should be understood that the Fallen Angels, as they are called, where in rebellion to their Source. Humans can only consider themselves “fallen” because they are not yet anywhere close to their full potential, that’s it. The Church intends to convince everyone that they were once in heaven but have fallen from grace in an attempt to 1. Hide their personal involvements in Necromancy. 2. Lower the believers frequency through shame and guilt while keeping them in a past they have no clue of. 3. Roll the individual believer into their mess with Lucifer.

    So let it be clear, most humans are very young souls, now called Spaws (S-Pawns-Serpent Pawns) because they not only contain essence from these Ancient Beings, but many through Re-Legion have been falsely led to continue the war against the Beings known more commonly as High Father because It has seldom given its Name/Mane/Amen, so thus there are few that know it. For those who think they have the Name of High Father they should check it to see if it is 216 tones long, not to mention it can only be “intoned”. Intoning is utter the proper word monotonously and repetitively and rhythmically.

    The Name will consume anything of flesh that correctly pronounces it because the flesh is a lower state. So in essence pronouncing the Name would cause spontaneous wormholing also called the transmutation of the soul. The Name remains hidden however the Portal to the name remains. In this case the Name becomes only energy, grams and tons. This portal is the Tetragrammaton. While everyone is still trying to Deify and worship everything it is as simple as this. Tetra means 4. This word when pronounced correctly creates a Cone in the mouth making the Solar Plexus a Zero Point Field. A Portal. This in turn puts one in immediate Judgement as they have entered the space of no time.

    Again a clarification must be made. Judgment is not like what is depicted in the Bible with white beard Sat sitting on the throne with angels around reading texts messages of all the sins you committed your whole life. When you notice the primitive and oppressive nature that is always displayed by these liars it is easy to spot their style.

    This immediate Judgement is to determine whether or not you are prepared for your next Quantum leap. A quick word on the third eye need be inserted here. When any of the Nodes in the brain activate the general result is you will be perceptive of another level of communication. This is generally taking place in the visual and audio cortex of the mind although when other Chakras are open one can see things on the physical plane that others cannot.

    Let it be clear, just because something is talking to you does not mean it is The Most High. The general approach of the real Adept by this point is they should be fortified with the faculties to distinguish between what will take them further on the journey or what will pull them back. The Adept will listen and even philosophy with other life forms just as if in a session with Scholars. There is nothing by the Adept taken on trust, faith, and things of that notion, it is sheerly the sense and proof that lets one know whether it comes from the pure source. Higher self is simply you in balance with the Most High in sync and unison. This stage is further beyond Gods, High Father, The Matrix, Creators and Destroyers.

    So thus you can see many entered with no direction and were immediately deceived because they were not instructed properly before opening gates and portals. Make no mistake what We speak of is of the Most High knowledge and as Holy and conscious as a Portal Hole. So all those who have profaned the Tetragrammaton one can go and visit at the crazy house. It is a fact that in Israel right now those who have gone ahead of their Rabbi and have attempted to join the Fifth element Penta with the Fourth Tone Tetra are struck with what is now coined “the Jerusalem Syndrome”. Basically they descend and lose their mind, while their bodies or shells remain here devoid of reasoning. Insane.

    There are calibrations in place for preparation that one is generally instructed upon before they raise there energy field. This instruction consisted of cleansing, meditation, herbs, spices, scents, visuals etc. High energy in the blood means no sleep so one is actually being prepared to live an existence that is not normal to the masses, thinking about all of this and considering it truly gets one even closer to the manifestation of the experience.

    It is also know that there are more hidden words, not to mention the sure vibration of the larynx, humming, or buzzing with no particular defined tone for long periods, (approx 2 hours), will cause the body to change frequency and vibrate to higher levels. Once again patience and determination is at hand, one must be patient to try it long enough and determined to get results. I WILL CONTINUE UNTIL IT OCCURES OPEN YE GATES TO ME I AM THE SON/DAUGHTER OF THE MOST HIGH!

    Again, manifestation for many equals only monetary prosperity and material gain which they falsely use as a sign of the strength of their spiritual connection . Or I should say rightly because their Spirit remains material because they have manifested material, they get what they asked for/four. The material desire has kept them in the lower states of the full comprehension of anything to do with ascension thus consumed with the weight of mass they erect physical kingdoms that decay over time. Make no mistake they are masters of Malkuth/The Kingdom which is all the reason they wish to keep everyone here by conning them through sly consent.

    On the levels which proceed this one, because getting there means you have learned a few very important things, such tactics cannot prevail because everything on that level can truly “See”. This the so-called elite know and they are wroth about it. They work tirelessly at not allowing pure methods to come into the hands of the new generation so they can remain in the lower states of thought, which produces the inability to began the Rise or to rule over oneself.

    Rising takes place on this dimension, one does not awaken to the immediate next stage and leave Earth entirely. Instead they begin to become conscious in all their existences. As their abilities increase they are able to span out further into what some folks like to call “the Unknown” mainly because they have not been there themselves before. Once again so many are flagged for imitating the experience but return with no explanation or an explanation that makes no sense in relation to how Realm Dynamics work when leaving 3D. The sign of waking up is seeing yourself in vivid dreams in which you are fully immersed in another life. Not the dreams effected by your situation of the week and the T.V.

    The Regions and Dimension are in order not chaos so there are specific ways in and out. This is not a free-for-all, if it was the lower realms would have already breached the Gate to devour. We would have awoke already with the Philistines upon Us. We are inheriting the responsibility of keeping Our primary Plane clear of distortion, which also means keeping the mind free from distortion, it is one in the same.

    In truth the experience leaves one changed forever and often friends and family members in their inability to understand what is taking place are removed from ones life. So what is desperately needed is the restoration to the Truth about the transition to the Higher Paths without all the distortion and profane methods from the lower paths seeping in, such as sacrifice and initiation. Coming into the Earth through the womb of Life is the greatest Initiation, there is nothing else needed. We must build and fortify the minds of the youth so they may complete their cycle, graduate, and remove themselves from it. Other than that one will remain within primordial spirals of repetition that take so long to come back around most never notice they are in a circle.

    Let Us keep in mind at this very moment I’m tasked with explaining probably one of the most complex things on this Planet. That would be how to get off the material Plane, Womb, or Matrix and in to Life. So I ask that all remain patient for clarity. Most of what I speak of has remained under the tightest gag order because of its ability to actually awake the sleeper, or more simply, raise the dead.

    Sleep is basically a form of death, so a sleeper in the Matrix or Womb is basically yet to live. None functioning DNA activated brings one forward to the Present and awakes them from slumber. So I don’t forget the reason why I refer to High Father and not pair that with “High Mother” is because there is no such thing by that term to compare Man with Woman as the same is to begin in error. One is not greater than the other because they serve two entirely different foreign functions but in great need of each other. A seed and a egg. The feminine is the cultivation spaces in the entire Galaxy, which is a Womb that can bring life to anything with thought. The masculine or Men/Mental is thus responsible for seeding the Galaxies, Planets, etc. through thought. Seeding and Birthing.

    To be continued...

  • fresnobob0

    One of my best friends is a freemason. I was really thinking of joining, just because of the whole mystique behind it (as a designer, all the symbolism and shit seems like itd be cool), but I was too lazy to actually do it. Its really easy, all you have to do is ask a mason, and then I think get 3 sponsors and youre in. Then you memorize a bunch of stuff to level up, or whatever its called. Its not like a hard thing, my friend never properly even graduated high-school and he leveled up faster than a lot of other dudes... they have secrets and all that cool stuff, but from my understanding its more of a social club now. Either that or hes mind controlling me and I don't know it.....

    • lol @ "level up"SteveJobs
    • from what i understand...like any large organization - their are secrets...but only for the highest up...those that deal nationallyPersonaNonGrata
  • ukit0

    To be continued...

    I hope not

    • yeah, i thunk the same thing. what a simpleton. our son is retarded.airey
  • Frosty_spl0

    So what is freemasonry, and why should one join?

    I went to FlashForward in 2008, and was held in a freemason building in SF. Interesting things on the walls.