D300Svs.7D vs D700vs.5DMkII
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- invo0
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/…
"Canon's EOS 7D is a pretty grandiose piece of image-recording equipment, whether you're talking about its size, features or price. You're probably aware of the 18 megapixel APS-C sensor and dual DIGIC 4 processors already, but we've all had to be a bit more patient than usual in waiting for the pro reviews to come out. Dpreview doesn't disappoint though, with a thoughtful 31-page tome awaiting the keen reader, and we've also got more digestible video reviews from DPhoto Journal for the less patient among you. If you're after direct comparisons against competing models, such as the Nikon D300s, you'll find those sprinkled in among the reviews as well, with Cameratown throwing in a direct head-to-head with Canon's own 5D Mark II. The 7D was found to produce "virtually no visible noise" all the way up to ISO 1600, and scored further points for its gorgeous 100 percent frame-covering viewfinder and fast 19-point AF. With a weather-sealed, highly ergonomic body design, ridiculously fast processing and a sensor so good that "in most situations the lens, rather than the camera, is likely to be the limiting factor," the only thing reviewers could criticize was the somewhat uncompetitive pricing, but that's likely to soften with time anyway. Read on... if you dare."
- first it was megapixels, now it's all about ISO. All of which is bs imo.quamb
- previous0
full frame lenses on cropped sensor cameras isn't such a bad idea, you use the "sweet spot" of the lens
- vaxorcist0
well, the camera geeks do keep Canon and Nikon in business... if it was up to people like me (and alot of other photographers who have a business to actually run, with profits and costs to mind) the gear industry would go out of business, as I rent, borrow, make my own, buy used stuff like an old 5D mark I, and don't really spend that much on gear compared to the gear freaks....
- back in the day we would have invested in a camera system and it could last your whole careerTungsten
- I still have some old Nikon film cameras + Nikkor AI lenses converted to Canonvaxorcist
- when i was your age, we didn't have a camera, just a burnt stick and a cave wallbigtrick
- ah... Rolleiflex 3.5E is somewhere in my pile of old stuff....vaxorcist
- OSFA0
- dibec0
OSFA ... from this example, seems like the Canon 7D is a little more sensitive to light. If you look at the lower right corner there is light coming off the corner ... so I don't know how accurate of test this is ...
- OSFA0
Ha! I love/hate threads like this, everybody gets into it and you learn so much! (Thanks guys for the great info shared)
And just when you think you made up your mind, someone comes with just a bit more info or knowledge and sends you back to step1!
- bigtrick0
- good point. and a majority ends up on teh intarnetserikjonsson
- ur an idiot
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- ItTango0
It comes down to what feels good to you (uh... camera-wise), and your eye. I have a Nikon D200, it has never let me down. Until I can afford a Phase 1 or medium format Hasselblad, I'm going to pimp it until it falls apart. When I need additional lenses, I roll into Calumet Photo, try them out and rent. I find that many people spend a chunk on expensive digitals and haven't a clue about lighting. If you know what you're doing, any respectable camera will get the job done.
- OSFA0
So, after this thread, who's getting a 5D or a 7D?
- version30
i see more noise on the 7D
- bigtrick0
Imma get a 5d mkII for sure if my book gets picked up by a publisher and the advance money comes in. But, I had decided this months ago.
- biggest reason for me to get a 5dmkii over a 50d or whatever: shallower DOF from a FF sensor.bigtrick
- You pay £2200+ for a shallower depth of field? ...gjd
- biggest reason, not only reason. dof, resolution advantage, lens advantage (my 20mm prime will become wide angle) = worth the extra $1k over a crop sensor.bigtrick
- ...angle) = worth the extra $1k over a crop sensor.bigtrick
- vaxorcist0
http://www.cameratown.com/review…
They have some hi-iso 7D vs 5D II comparisons.... less difference than I might think, also probably more visible on screen at full-resolution than in actual prints or video on anything less than a HUGE screen....I would be leaning 7D at this point, as I don't shoot ISO 1600 much at all.... and I have a 5D for fullframe... but I'm not in the market for a new camera now...
- quamb0
re: full frame vs crop.
I wouldn't go anything less then full-frame due to already owning a bunch of primes and also love shooting narrow DOF. Plus the viewfinder really opens up.
Though if your starting from scratch, and only needing this for client work, then it's much of a muchness as both canon & nikon seem to be gearing their new tech/lenses to the cropped format.
And I guess thats the thing, it's more about tech these days --- different film sizes would drastically change the quality of the photo, and the amount of DOF you had to play with.
- gjd0
Quick answer – buy the 7D.
Longer answer.....
D300s – Essentially a D90 in a heavier, slightly stronger body; plus a few negligible extras, and the sensor is practically identical. If you're getting this just go for D90 and use the extra £££ for lens/filters. Remember, video quality on D300s/D90 is nowhere near as good as the Canons (if this is important).
D700 – Not much point. Upgrade (D700x/D700s/D800) coming by next year and current D700 is not as good as 7D for all round performance.
5Dii vs 7D – go for 7D. Cheaper, video mode almost as good, high ISOs are just as good. Full frame difference will not set the world on fire for someone used to a D80. 7D body is improved over 5D. Even though changing settings on Canon SLRs is still a pain the arsehole (very fiddly). Cropped sensor also allows for longer tele-zooms.
I spent a long time speaking to people, trying cameras out, searching blogs and substituting FAPtime to get an answer on this, and the 7D is the winner – although by the next summer the D700x/D700s/D800 will probably win once Nikon pull their fucking fingers out.
- sorry about the lost faptime man.erikjonsson
- ahahah lol erikbigtrick
- JamesBoynton0
^ I got a 7D for my birthday, i'm no photographer but i love it, easy to use and my pics come out pretty well i reckon.
- formed0
Thanks everyone!
- version30
"7D body is improved over 5D." um. what?
some extra buttons? yes.
body build durability? no.the 5D has longevity over the 7D