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  • yuekit3

    Opioid maker used rap video to push powerful painkiller

    Employees at a drug company accused of bribing doctors rapped and danced around a person dressed as a bottle of the highly addictive fentanyl spray in a video meant to motivate sales reps to push the drug.

    https://apnews.com/2a40fb45332e4…

    • and?PonyBoy
    • Sales reps are going to push the fucking drug regardless of some stupid internal motivational promo (It's their job)... I'll ask again... and?PonyBoy
    • You're right...nothing to see here.
      Just a totally normal healthy society ;)
      yuekit
    • Companies do this internal motivational (whatever you want to call it) all the time to stir up their employees... doesn't have much to do w/bribing etc.PonyBoy
    • "They’re charged with scheming to pay doctors bribes and kickbacks in exchange for prescriptions of the opioid meant for cancer patients with severe pain."...PonyBoy
    • ... that's your story... not some stupid internal rap motivational stuff... I really don't understand why they'd report on that aspect... very weird.PonyBoy
    • Did you know that more Americans are now dying from overdoses (mostly opiods) each year than died in the entire Vietnam war? Amazing...yuekit
    • What does that have to do w/using a 'rap' to motivate a sales team? Again... the story is 'scheming to pay doctors bribes and kickbacks'...PonyBoy
    • ... every 'large' company does these silly internal sales rallies... I still am lost as to why that's a story.PonyBoy
    • Maybe you wouldn't expect a shitty rap promo video for a serious drug that is easy to overdose and die from...?yuekit
    • To motivate an internal sales team? I've been dragged to titty bars w/cocaine, heroin and every other fuck vice you can toss at some 20-something...PonyBoy
    • ... money-grubbing sales staff (male and female). It's actually shit like that that made me go back to school for graphic crap in my mid 20's. :)PonyBoy
    • Again... this is 'business as usual' to motivate any sales team, dude. The story should be focused on the bribes and kickbacks... not what...PonyBoy
    • ... is used to to motivate the fucking sales team. The AP blew it here. There is no shock if you've spent anytime in the 'real world' I guess.PonyBoy
    • and here i thought i had issues... O,,oimbecile
    • this is 'business as usual'
      And you think it's normal and good for the business of health care to be run like a used car dealership? lol
      yuekit
    • I didn't say I thought it was 'good'... I even said I bailed on this world back in the day as I alluded to it being gross. But if you're 'shocked' by this...PonyBoy
    • ... and by 'this' I mean Sales Motivational Techniques like some dumb rap... then you're easily shocked.PonyBoy
    • A rap used in a corporation to motivate a sales team is definitely 'business as usual'... bribes and kickbacks are not. Focus on that.PonyBoy
    • lol imbecilefuturefood
    • would have gotten so much outrage and backlash in canada.pango
    • the movie Office Space is pretty real to life (that's why it's funny) dorky shit from awkward forced birthday parties to shitty internal motivational rallies.PonyBoy
    • getting upset over a corpo product (whatever it is) characterized in a tacky fashion and put to a rap is a bit silly.PonyBoy
    • Go Patriots!utopian
    • Did this tacky motivational rap cause bribes and kickbacks?PonyBoy
    • kill it with fireMilan
    • Questionable direction. Makes you wonder if this was their poor attempt trying to appeal to kids.pango
    • it's a video meant to motivate sales reps, pango... hasn't a thing to do w/nor would ever be seen by kidsPonyBoy
    • why you defending this so much?inteliboy
    • why are they marketing it to sales rep like they market it kids? are their sales rep kids? is this why pharma industry is kind of fucked up because sales repspango
    • are kids? really confused is all.pango
    • Yeah this is a weird hill to die on. Maybe PonyBoy’s whole business is creating corporate motivational rap videosyuekit
    • You make it sound like I approve of this. All I have said is how confusing it is that this is even a story given it has nothing to do with bribes and kickbacks.PonyBoy
    • Anybody who has worked for a large corporation has had to sit through stupid internal sales bullshit like this... It is nothing new. It is almost always tacky.PonyBoy
    • again... Is this stupid Internal sales rap the cause of a bunch of bribes and kickbacks?PonyBoy
    • Take away this serious crimes of these bribes and kickbacks and you are left with a tacky internal sales presentation as your story... Which is a non-story.PonyBoy
    • If you guys can’t tell the difference between an internal sales tool (a tacky one at that) and an actual advertisement then I don’t know why I am typing this :)PonyBoy
    • Intelli... haven’t defended a thing. I’m pointing out that this article is going after the wrong story... That is all. Focus on the bribes and kickbacks...PonyBoy
    • ... Not on some stupid internal sales presentation that never sees the light of day until the AP gets their hand on it to try and shock us.PonyBoy
    • The sales reps sold to doctors and other Legal pharmaceutical distribution. This was never marketing for the public.PonyBoy
    • You should be shocked that doctors excepted bribes and kickbacks... Not that some stupid rap video was used in an internal sales presentation.PonyBoy
    • *accepted ( sorry, I am talking into my phone As typing with my thumbs gets tedious)PonyBoy
    • Ya I'm only talking about the rap.
      Does that shit actually work as a sales tool? LOL
      pango
    • pango... Think Steve Ballmer... "Developers! Developers! Developers!" That shit works for the right people. Corpo Sales teams are basically greedy men/women...PonyBoy
    • ...right off the street. No experience whatsoever. They're easily influenced people usually w/only dollar signs in their eyes—yes, shit like that rap works. :-/PonyBoy
    • No wonder the industry is wack...pango
    • yeah fuck it, ponyboy you're a worthless piece of shit. go fuck yourself.imbecile
    • I love you, imbby... <3
      *pinches your cute lil chubby cheeks... SO CUTE!
      PonyBoy
  • PhanLo3

    Sacklers to pay $6 billion to settle Purdue opioid lawsuits
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    Also punches for.
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    https://www.reuters.com/business…
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    • who gets that cash? surely not the homeless that Oxy put them there in the first placeYakuZoku
    • my nephew was a crane operator, hurt his back then they gave him Oxy, 1 year later he was jobless, homeless and on HeroinYakuZoku
    • to this day hes still in and out of prison and rehabYakuZoku
    • They should execute the entire Sackler familyPhanLo
    • That's heavy what happened to your nephew. An old mate who was a stonemason was the same. Backpain at work led to opiods and job loss.PhanLo
    • Yankee Doodle Dandy!utopian
    • I’d vote in favor of execution for the Sacklers. Make an example of themnb
    • Same with an aunt of my wife. She hurt her back, they gave her oxi, one of the side effects is back pain so the cycle was endless. She was dead within 2 years._niko
    • I think execution is too good for them, they been to be water-boarded for a day for each life they ruined._niko
    • It's refreshing to see that too much power does have its limits. But yeah, all that money should go back into the community to help those most fucked by OxyIanbolton
    • Getting those kind of painkillers here in Portugal is almost impossible, only when you're in the hospitaldmay
  • utopian5

    • +1 for having california as your ideal example for socialism. the state that resembles a dumpster firehotroddy
    • It’s even cheaper if you cut sugar out of your diet and eat zero processed foods.shapesalad
    • exactly. somehow California can't stop pumping sugar into kids with soda drinks in school. but good for them fighting the insulin war.hotroddy
    • The last time I checked, sugar was an addictive drug pumped into the communities by corporations and their shareholders...its called capitalism!utopian
    • Research on rats has found that sugar is more addictive than opioid drugs such as cocaine.
      https://www.newhallh…
      utopian
    • Hotknobby you're one dumb and ignorant fuckwad of a subhuman. Stop watching Newsmax & Fox News for your facts.utopian
    • I agree sugar is addictive and unhealthy. But corporations should be free to use sugar in their products. After all, sugar is fine in small doses.hotroddy
    • Now that California is in the insulin business, they have less incentive to curb sugar in public schools.hotroddy
    • California can pass a law to ban tobacco sales to those born after a certain year but can't do anything about sugar use?hotroddy
    • stop calling me ignorant if you are going to preface it with statements like, "opioid drugs such as cocaine"hotroddy
    • So is intelligence, morality and ethics apparently_niko
    • Wow shapesalad and hotroddy just cured type 1 diabetes!dmay
    • the word is 'prevent' not 'cure'hotroddy
    • You can't prevent type 1 daibetes, dumbass! Learn before you say stupid thingsdmay
    • Type 1 diabetes is insulin dependent and as nothing to do with diet, it's an autoimmune condition.dmay
    • which type of diabetes affects the greatest % of popula'n? which preventive measures could have sweeping effects in the overall health of American population?hotroddy
    • ^ that's the diabetes in questionhotroddy
    • 1.4 million in America, 64,000 each year, is that enough?dmay
    • well, I was talking about the 36 million. Do you have type 1?hotroddy
    • I get the point. I empathize if you have type 1 and the medicine should be accessible and it's ridiculous the prices of insulin.hotroddy
    • **I empathize with anyone who has...hotroddy
    • My oldest daughter has it, and luckily I live in a "socialist" country where insulin, insulin pumps and glucose sensors are subsidized by the statedmay
    • You are fortunate in that regard. Hopefully, California can make it work. But paying for the costs for those eating/living unhealthy is a little much.hotroddy
    • and the high prices can be used as a deterrent for making poor choices.hotroddy
  • NBQ003

    Oprah lost nearly $600M in SVB

  • utopian2

    • Gen X, under performing as usual. GO TEAMautoflavour
    • Not easy auto, not easy... We try!!OBBTKN
    • This graph makes no fucking sense.Morning_star
    • ^ lol what exactly are you struggling to comprehend nowkingsteven
    • AHAHAHA FML i was staring at it for minutes, should have read the notes first :Dsted
    • Well there’s something lots of generations can agree on... baby boomers are the c@n!sdee-dubs
    • @kingsteven. In 2019 Baby Boomers represent 56%, Gen x - 16%, Mill - 4%, Who owns the other 25%?Morning_star
    • im a fuckin poor manmilfhunter
    • these cohorts cover 1945 - 1997, so presumably 25% was owned by people who in 2019 were over the age of 74 and (to a lesser extent) under the age of 22kingsteven
    • Agreed. Would you say that if you extrapolate the baby boomers back to 30yrs old that all generations would have a share of the national wealth that fell...Morning_star
    • ...between 5-10%?Morning_star
    • tbh, the median cohort age calculation would suggest its 3 separate charts. this is more accurately conveying the generational shift (rather than inequality)kingsteven
    • i may re-do this if i get time from the stats without averaging for comparison, it'll be less meaningful but i guess thats what we want to see (numbers that addkingsteven
    • up to 100) - for example the raw data shows 2019: 16% silent gen, 51% boomer, 26% genX, 7% millenial.kingsteven
    • i also may just go to the pub... frivolous millennial that i amkingsteven
    • Just go to the pub. As Gen Xer, i've been there since 11.Morning_star
    • The percentage of wealth should really be rebased to account for the size of each generation. Boomers are a large cohort so you expect they account for more.monNom
    • they dont... it's 76 million boomers (11 million dead by 2011) 65 million genX, 72 million millennials. now over half of the US population is millennial or genZkingsteven
    • safe to say in 2019 boomers were the smallest group, even though maybe 20% of them had died as a group they're still accumulating wealth.kingsteven
  • i_monk6

    • Kinda crazy and sad that wall street is hitting record numbers, but we can't pay for public schools. It says a lot.twooh
    • look locally at Baltimore's bureaucracy if you want a clue who's to blame (meaning: can't manage money for shit) and stop comparing it to the Dow ffsPonyBoy
    • To not take note of the record profits would be ignorant. Where do you think money to pay for things comes from? It is horribly sad.formed
    • Worse is how many lap up the 'cut everything!' selfishness. Sure, inefficiencies suck, but just robbing the future will kill America.formed
    • 40+ years of austerity can't be to blame, it must be mismanagement and liberal spending! More cuts will cure it!i_monk
    • sure sure... never blame the local bureaucracy for terrible decisions, consistent poor spending and pitiful leadershipPonyBoy
    • Because the Dow has everything to do w/how Baltimore taxes and spends those taxes... right? This is whiny emotional post, Dave.PonyBoy
    • Get out your butterfly net and go hunt down some efficiency fairies.i_monk
    • How do I go about gathering silly unbalanced comparisons of local shitshow bureaucracies vs. good stock market news? Is there a net for that?PonyBoy
    • I agree with PonyBoy. Every time the President references the stock market as if that were related to his policies, he looks like a fucking retard.monospaced
  • PhanLo5


    • Anything under 90% cocoa is just chocolate flavoured sugar crap.shapesalad
    • 99.9% of anything is complete shitPhanLo
    • I think we're yet to find anything that you're not an elitist cock about, shapesaladBuddhaHat
    • people actually care about these characters? seems like free exposure for M&M. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯pango
    • Fuck! Nestle just bought one of my favorite clients.toemaas
  • utopian6

    • Nice to see tax dollars used for something positive. What would you call Lockheed Martin's fortune? 100% gov funded and we don't even know where it goes.formed
    • sending rich people to space is not too postiveneverscared
    • Bootstraps not working so well eh?MrT
    • < Lol, i saw this on the internet, it must be true!kaiyohtee
  • nb0

    Assuming I play the game correctly, I want to aim to do the following:

    a) give my kids as much of my money as I possibly can BEFORE I die

    while also

    b) die with as much debt as I can possibly accumulate (from banks, lenders who aren’t family)

    Am I wrong here? I might start calibrating towards this. I’m 40.

    • forgive my ignorance (no kids, not inheriting much), but doesn't debt get passed on as well? like can banks pursue action against your kidscolin_s
    • Lol if those fuckers think they’re coming to me looking to cover my moms debt?! Good luck to themnb
    • afaik dept can't pass to anyone else when you die, however, your estate can/may be wiped out to pay off your dept.bulletfactory
    • the doug stanhope bit - 6 years after his mom died (statute of limitations) about maxing out her credit after she died is quite beautifulkingsteven
    • That’s correct. Your estate pays your debts first, then anything left over is inheritance to someonenb
    • Whoever is executer of the will has the legal responsibility to satisfy debts first before distributing and assets. If there is no will this is done by the Gov.Morning_star
    • So, the plan is to give that money to your kids before you die while racking up debt that you’ll never have to pay back.nb
    • You could technically hide money overseas in a trust that is controlled by both you and the kids. However, the tax man will be particularly observant if they...Morning_star
    • ...know a parent has recentky dies. It can be very difficult for kids to realise the funds without Gov. knowing.Morning_star
    • Also, giving money to your kids whilst you're alive is difficult due to income tax or capital gains.Morning_star
    • I think the idea is the exact opposite: Give as much to kids as possible AFTER you die. Die with as little debt as possiblemonospaced
    • @mono that is one strategy, for sure. I'm talking about the inverse approach. Utilize debt to maximize personal net wealthnb
    • @Morning_Star: I hear you, and I think you're right. But you can give $15k to each child per year without triggering a tax event.nb
    • So, say I live 30 more years & have two kids. If I gift $15k/year to each, I can give a total of $900,000 without telling the IRS.nb
    • It's not great but better than hoarding for 30 years and losing 15% or more to taxes. Meanwhile, I borrow for my own needs with no intention of paying off debtnb
    • I'm aware that this becomes hard to do as you get old. E.g.: a 70y/o can't get a mortgage without having a young person co-sign.nb
    • @nb, the $15k yearly gift is a good way, my parents have done something similar with my kids. They’ve stipulated that the kids invest the money and...Morning_star
    • ..don’t touch it until they’re 21.Morning_star
    • Borrow at fixed rate low interest, eg for your house. meanwhile put savings into BTC. by time you die, kids can use 1% of the BTC they inherit to payoff home.shapesalad
    • Your kids get the debt too. You don’t want to give them that if you can help it. I don’t see how this is a real strategy. Or else you’re totally sarcasticmonospaced
    • If you have less than zero when you die, the debt isn’t passed to your children.nb
    • so im mostly ignorant here, but isnt a trust fund for kids seprate and untouchable? also im a photog so "paying" kids as "promo models" is common among us.epigraph
    • Debt is inherited of course. It isn’t forgiven upon death.monospaced
    • I suppose if you are talking philosophically one could say debt is passed on. not sure thats the case in the legal sense innthe US.epigraph
    • @monospaced: not in the USA. If you owe more than you have when you die, the debt is wiped clean.nb
    • *googling how to take your own death.pango
    • *fakepango
    • @kingsteven lol I did this, in part, before I left the UK. Put a shitload on credit cards then bailed overseas. Good times.face_melter
    • Sorry, debt is not erased, it is passed on. If nobody can pay it, they take it from your estate. Children can inherit that and mortgage debt too.monospaced
    • This is very true in the USA, of course, and is why so many people are forced to take out life insurance policies, and why deaths are so costly.monospaced
    • Have you googled this? I think you’re wrongnb
    • They take it from your estate but if your estate doesn’t have enough to cover the debts, they do not get passed on. It’s similar to declaring bankruptcynb
    • I don't need to google it. But if I did, it would say that debt is not erased and is paid for by the estate, which is the children.monospaced
    • Hmmm, I don't think it's that simple. All I have are anecdotes about how the estate debt is a burden on the executors.monospaced
    • Your kids are not part of your estate FFS! They’re people!!!nb
  • PhanLo8

    • This made me look up, Ling cod. Gotta remember that oneGnash
    • Me too, Gnash. And then I googled his gfhardhat
  • Ramanisky27

    • when she busts out the charts I bust out the popcorn.
      love her.
      _niko
    • Yes this! I was looking for a video on youtube to post, Rama you're fast! but thanks for posting, this is priceless lolgrafician
    • She’s a straight up gangstahRamanisky2
    • Cunts the lot of them, you see why a portion of the population distrusts the vaccines. How many deaths are caused by either hesitance or just unaffordability_niko
    • ...thanks to all the Pharma bros. There's blood on their hands._niko
  • utopian4

    NRA files for bankruptcy

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/m…

    • https://www.youtube.…DRIFTMONKEY
    • I thought this was the capitalism thread?NonEntity
    • Cold dead hands!inv
    • Thank fuck. These guys are responsible for nearly every single mass shooting in the past 50 years.i_monk
    • From my cold broke hands!nb
    • The NRA is responsible for mass shootings in the same way that Pottery Barn is responsible for making people fat, i_monk.MondoMorphic
    • That's a stupid comparison and you know it.i_monk
  • yuekit3

    • "FIELD", "SKY".
      This is how it's done!
      palimpsest
    • I think he’s being overly sarcastic in this one?NBQ00
    • Nah, this one's fake.Continuity
    • Garrison wouldn't know how to be sarcastic even if you paid him substantial sums of money to be so.Continuity
    • They are both fake.
      It's funny how everything needs to pointed out. Both for his public and the QBN public.
      palimpsest
    • Anyone found the hidden penis yet?pango
    • Glovenb
    • oh bobomonospaced
    • I think a Bennnsplanation is needed.
      This is funny because it uses BG's name and style for a message that goes against what he stands for.
      palimpsest
    • It's like posting a Jeff Tiedrich tweet praising Trump.
      Hope that helps.
      palimpsest
    • Why is it called a football? It’s not ball and neither is it kicked.Chimp
    • Asking the though questions.
      It is a ball and it is kicked.
      palimpsest
    • I thought maybe he was overly sarcastic because it features communism, Marx, LGBTQ & BLM all in one over the top.NBQ00
    • He's too short-sighted for that type of reasoning.palimpsest
  • yuekit4

    • Ben Garisson taking a sharp turn to the left post Trump..yuekit
    • Is this the same neo-con alt right wing comic artist?utopian
    • Yep same guy but he changed nowyuekit
    • You sure he isn’t being sarcastic?NBQ00
    • “Don't believe everything you read on the Internet” — Abraham Lincolnpalimpsest
    • Surely thing can't be a real Ben Garrison thing.Continuity
    • Surely this*
      Fuck, I need to stop trying to communicate before having my first cup of coffee.
      Continuity
    • Where is the hidden stiff penis?pango
    • By definition it is hidden.palimpsest
    • waldo's supposed to be hidden. he was still found.pango
    • Logic checks out. I haven't looked for it, it's still hidden for me. Have you found it?palimpsest
    • Nopepango
  • imbecile8

    • Lobbying works. They figured out the formula to control govt. I doubt that will change in my lifetime.formed
    • eat the richakiersky
  • Beeswax9

  • utopian5

    OxyContin maker will plead guilty and close down

    Purdue Pharma agrees to plead guilty to federal criminal charges and pay more than $8 billion for its role in the US opioid crisis
    Multiple states say opioid crisis cost US economy over $2 trillion

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/b…

  • PhanLo6

  • utopian8

    America's billonaires got $484billion RICHER during the pandemic - with the top five seeing a combined $76billion added to their personal wealth.

    New report shows the country's billionaires have grown richer during pandemic

    Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg are among those who made financial gains

    Between March 18 and May 19, the total net worth of the 600-plus U.S. billionaires rose from $2.948 trillion to $3.382 trillion, the report found

    It is estimated over 38.6 million Americans have lost their jobs during the crisis

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news…

    • Isn't that mostly based on stock value? But astonishing none the less...grafician
    • Stock and who's buying with what fundsdeathboy
    • The fed picking up Corp debt creates opportunitiesdeathboy
    • Again not capitalism and better politicsdeathboy
    • fuck look at hertz stock . this will be interesting.. grabs popcrndeathboy
  • whatthefunk7

    • His vehicle is a living petri dish.utopian
    • amazing. lots of fucking spit, but amazing.wagshaft
    • I feel like having a heart attack for him!Sellies