Hudson crash caught on tape
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- era4O40
really sad.
- kkills0
I'm taking a flight lesson tomorrow, working towards my license. I wasn't nervous about it but after seeing the clip...eeeeesh.
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Another QBN aviator. It's a lonely group. Glad to have you!marychain - ....hopefully for a while.CygnusZero4
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- marychain0
OK...a LOT of misconceptions going on here.
First of all....the FAA didn't screw up...they are not even involved. They are a regulatory body...they are not sitting in a tower directing aircraft.
A pilot can file a flight plan in either VFR (Visual flight rules) or IFR...Instrument Flight rules.
There are a LOT of conditions in which you cannot fly VFR
The weather must be above minimums set by the FAA based on visability and clearance from clouds. Planes in this scenario have atltitude limits and the pilots employ a see and avoid philosophy (but ALL pilots do this..even IFR rated ones) HOWEVER they are required to use a transponder which signals on radar. In this case...the Teterboro tower had them on radar.Under VFR...the pilots are not required to ask for direction as long as they obey the altitude limit and speed limit. However...one should not mistake this for a plane being invisible and running loose in the skies above the Hudson.
The ATC employees will likely have disciplinary actions taken for a really piss poor work ethic...however they have done nothing criminal.
PS: altitude has nothing to do with whether a plane is or is not being directed by a tower. The only connection is that VFR rules usually dictate a ceiling.
anyone want to discuss...I've been flying for a while now and have loved it since I was too young to really remember. Flying is an EXTREMELY safe experience....but lets face it...accidents DO happen....it's very tragic...but I hate it when these RARE accidents stike fear into people. It usually ends up sparking a lot of false information and misconceptions about flying. I think if people understood the regulations, safety standards and physics of flying they would feel a whole lot better. I am much more nervous of getting on the freeway.
Cheers
Only IFR flight REQUIRE instruction and vectoring from a tower or radar station.
- Coffeemaker0
why are you people so dramatic about this?
a. the hudson crash is old news now
b. everyone was saved
c. the pilot was rightfully honored and awarded- ummmmm
please be jokingmarychain - yup i am.. and i be the only one laughing my guts out here hahahahaCoffeemaker
- sorry, drunk.. carry on.Coffeemaker
- have a good night then!
Cheers!marychain - Hell I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.5timuli
- HAHAHAHAmarychain
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- MrDinky0
Saw it this morning
- sureshot0
me too.
- fyoucher10
meh, thats it? They didn't even show the "crash"...
- Well the cam may have picked up some of the ending, but maybe they edited it.CygnusZero4
- MrDinky0
you are right, they only showed the clip where the airplane hits the helicopter.
- kgvs720
That's horrible.
- It looks like it FAA screwed up.kgvs72
- When flying at that altitude, air traffic is not directed. I think they call it visual flight path. Safe right?CygnusZero4
- IDK the video mentioned that FAA has taken disciplinary action towards employees.kgvs72
- Yes, for talking on the phone during. They said it didnt play a role in the crash. They didnt need to direct them.CygnusZero4
- MrDinky0
Air ways in hudson is not regulated.
- Its actually not bad, and makes sense. It was the only small air crash there since 1963. 46 years with no issues.CygnusZero4
- c'mon..please don't comment unless you know something about aviation. It is regulated...don't be ridiculousmarychain
- Just because it's a VFR route...doesn't mean it's not watched. It's New york city...marychain
- version30
oops. that whole big sky too. "air rage'