joshua davis bashing by CR
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- gramme0
"Well, I've got some advice for you little buddy. Before you point your finger you should know that I'm the man. If I'm the man then he's the man, and you're the man as well..."
- *well nowgramme
- u be da manutopian
- there's a lot of men around your partscalculator
- heh hehcalculator
- It's a quote from a Tool song.gramme
- breadlegz0
We don't talk about Joshua Davis enough these days !!
- MrDinky0
Its always easier to be critical of someone when no one knows who you are.
- janne760
RISPEK ARIE ARIE!
- Horp0
Khurram, you seem really keen to push this new self perception as professional cage fighter. May I ask exactly how many professional cage fights you've engaged in, and how you have faired so far. If no professional bouts yet, then maybe some amateur ones?
- do i sense some tension between us? Cos that would make me sad :(Khurram
- No not at all, but this is a JD vs CR thread and you've mentioned Cage fighting loads in it so I'm curious...Horp
- Khurram, nobody likes youceiling_cat
- to know if you've made headway. You just seem really eager to talk about it. I thought I would ask.Horp
- That's not true ceiling cat.Horp
- Ha. Ok. Yeah, i've had several Muay Thai inter-club fights. I'm training in submission wrestling nowKhurram
- taking it to the next step yo!Khurram
- (maybe the tension you sense is because I've asked an inconvenient question) = DHorp
- though i was being facetious with the references, as is my wont.Khurram
- Good to hear. So do you plan on making it a career thing or a life-thing (I don't want to say 'hobby')Horp
- nah, just your other comments in this thread. I'm sensitive cos your my favourite *hugz!*Khurram
- fucking LOLMau
- "facetious with the references"... yes, exactly why I was being facetious with my question.
= )Horp - < A smiley face dropped off the bottom of that note I'll have you know.Horp
- supergaybrandelec
- A life thing i guess. I had a quarter life crisis lol, i could get all pretentious into why i do itKhurram
- i did it for a few weeks, just for fun, and it got into my blood, and now i'm obsessed, basicallyKhurram
- though this is waaay off topicKhurram
- Its okay, its notes, who cares. Film a fight and post it up POST IT UP MAN!Horp
- More like a Bum Fighter.Jnr_Madison
- Ha, ok, i filmed a training compilation with a mate, i'll put up when i get a chance!Khurram
- I'm sorry i hurt your feelings when i said you were a rubbish internet dweeb, Jnr_Madison.Khurram
- LOLHorp
- haha, yeah that's it.Jnr_Madison
- mg330
This video is pretty cool and brings me to a good point: every single one of you would LOVE to support your life with your main talent. Not work in an office. Not be at the mercy of an employer. Be able to be artistic, have people appreciate your work. You'd kill for it.
I'm with 74LEO - he's always been an inspiring person, always seems pretty down to earth with what you see on the web. I got into Flash in 1999/2000 when he was one of a few guys really inspiring people to do cool stuff. Him, Presstube, VolumeOne, Eric Natzke, Yugop, all the people who were in New Masters of Flash in 2000.
I just cannot rationalize hating on someone because of success that they worked hard to achieve by working hard, finding new ways of doing things, staying inspired.
- LOKi0
Joshua Davis may not be the most talented traditional designer, but what is that supposed to be anyways these days?
I flip/flop a lot regarding his type of work. I remember fist coming across it 10 years ago and being completely blown away, it was unlike anything I had ever seen. Less than a year later, I did a pencil drawing in the style that took me a month to draw because I was so sick of trying to emulate his shit on the web. As we can clearly see today, his "decorative" approach has consumed the mainstream, in one form of the other, so you can't deny his influence.
Whether you like his work or not, the guy's got a great story and, imho, deserves a great deal of respect for the way he managed to cut his teeth in this industry.
http://www.k10k.net/issues/100
and my post about it many years later: http://lokidesign.net/2356/2007/…- Flip flops. That's all I got, then my mind wandered.Horp
- MrT0
If people on here haven't even heard of Mr Davis, maybe his light didn't shine bright enough or long enough for him to be beyond criticism for his current mediocrity.
- oey0
So CR is not Cristiano Ronaldo?
- Horp0
^ Well that would be my arguement to CR too MrT... If you think he's irrelevant why mention it, why not fill your magazine with what you think is relevant, rather than making sneering snipes at the people who you consider to be of no contemporary relevance.
- Because the author was writing about the event and Davis was part of that event.Josev
- prophetone0
❤'d endtroducing.
- breadlegz0
He's still alive ... latest vid:
- see folks, people WILL buy tacky design if you package it nicely.robotron3k
- brandelec0
remember there will always be haters. and that's what they do, they hate
- woodyBatts0
I have been following Josh's work since 2000. Back then I was an undergrad, then went to get my grad degree in interactive arts, at the time everyone was "poo poo" ing flash, decreeing director the better piece of software. However the one thing I loved about flash was that it was a piece of software that had a following and community. It is no mistake friendster came a year later.
After grad school I was so disillusioned by all the critique that art school brings and since I was a fan I saved up my money and went to New York for a week and took his class. In the class Josh talked more about drawing, Cy Twombly and color theory then wax poetic on design hogwash.
His class inspired me to pack up my life, and relocate to New York and pursue a life as an artist ( my dream ) because I believe that a lot of people fail to notice is whether you like his work or not, or even if you have grown past it ( how many of us can really look at the Mona Lisa and not roll out eyes? it doesn't mean it's not brilliant ) is that he is a modern working artist.
Hemingway said "critics are those who come down afer a battle and kill the survivors" his work deserves critique, but going on and on about screensavers kind of misses the point in my perspective.
- digdre0
bad advertising is advertising too
- harlequino0
Regarding "wanker":
About 12 years ago, during the summer before my junior year of college, I worked on a paint crew. At first, I didn't talk too much to the other guys, as I was a soft, academic music major type, and they were all tough hairy knuckle types. But one day, they were trying to rustle me into conversation. They knew I was into jazz, and someone asked "What do you think of Kenny G?"
Viciously, I spat "KENNY G IS A WANKER!!" Use of the word wanker and my militant stance on the question garnered much laughter, and at that moment solidified opinions that there was a new amusing presence on the crew. Overall, it was a good summer.Point is, that was 1997, and I used the word "wanker" frequently in the following year or two. it is entirely possible that any current hipster overusage of the term is, at least in part, my fault.
I am sorry.
- MrT0
^^ Horp - fair point. In CR's defence wasn't the article damning the lineup of speakers at a type conference? Regardless of JD's standing in general, it's a stretch to consider him in any way a typographer. I like his work too, but typography it surely is not.