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- PhanLo1
North America if all the glaciers and icecaps melted.
http://www.christopherbretz.ca/p…
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- trooperbill1
- awesomeshapesalad
- https://www.youtube.…Bluejam
- he's wrong about solar and wind tho. outdated video. JP is fun to watch, but is a know-it-all about every topic, even when he doesn't know-it-allinteliboy
- utopian3
Collapseologists are warning humanity that business-as-usual will make the Earth uninhabitable.
Hundreds of scientists, writers and academics from 30 countries sounded a warning to humanity in an open letter published in the Guardian in December: Policymakers and the rest of us must “engage openly with the risk of disruption and even collapse of our societies.” “Damage to the climate and environment” will be the overarching cause, and “researchers in many areas” have projected widespread social collapse as “a credible scenario this century.”
- yeah but my Murdoch news tells me it's just the planets cycle.inteliboy
- The narcoleptic plantation owner told us all the coastal cities would be underwater by now.MondoMorphic
- grafician1
Read today that we just passed the "point of no return" on global warming...
China and the US just need to stop doing anything. Like full stop.
The rest we need to curb cars. Not in like 30 years. Like next year, tops!
Sure, most of us just got 'till 2050-2060 to live anyway, but by 2100 Earth could be inhabitable around the Ecuator durring Summer and with full ice caps melted at the extreme North/South poles.
- Also this is not an alarmist message, this is happening, we can do nothing to undo it, we can just mitigate some of the effects, but that's about it.grafician
- Just wait, science will come up with something, defo going to happen.
Just kidding, we doooomed.PhanLo - you'll get a lot more migration, no more happy times and peace, just stress and tensions from now on babygrafician
- https://www.qbn.com/…PhanLo
- utopian0
The world's largest wetlands are on fire.
That's a disaster for all of us.blob:null/f81f1b53-3d59-4d72-820...
- grafician-1
"'Sleeping giant' Arctic methane deposits starting to release, scientists find
Exclusive: expedition discovers new source of greenhouse gas off East Siberian coast has been triggered"
- global warming TRIGGERED!grafician
- This has the effect of half the China leaving their freezers open for a week...grafician
- Clathrate gun's going to fuck us all.Nairn
- working in Alaska the last 2 Salmon seasons, I haven't met 1 Alaskan that denies climate change & their mostly republicanmoldero
- Inhabitable planet in 20 years, can't waitgrafician
- And Musk wants to populate to Mars lolutopian
- Gnash2
- Aha, I was wondering what this was...
https://www.theguard…Nairn - Oops, i thought i included the linkGnash
- Also more importantly seals in Russia’s Baltic fleet lol_niko
- https://link.springe…PeterPancake
- Interesting link, thanks Peter.Nairn
- Maybe needed but totally fucked upi_was
- Aha, I was wondering what this was...
- Bindegal4
- strawman.inteliboy
- Nice I had no idea about Boyan, thanks for the post.eryx
- although climate change is real, it's often used as a tool to create social control and political power.hotroddy
- case in point Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezhotroddy
- Well it’s easier to cheer and “like” a little girl than actually doing anything yourself so yeah._niko
- Plus it’s hilarious how she gets under trumps skin_niko
- What's he doing to stop it from getting into the oceans in the first place? And what economic devastation? Surely you mean 'economic opportunities'.i_monk
- I find it odd how many people are triggered by this girl.Gnash
- They both have an important role to play. “Wrong thesis, Right thesis” they are making an impact. Meme posters like yourself and dB are oh so much smarter, huh?ben_
- utopian2
Antarctica temperatures reach 69 degrees for the first time ever
- utopian2
Drill Baby Drill!
- deadsperm-10
- Downvote for the blue pill.deadsperm
- Yellow pill: dinosaurs and dragons are the same.Maaku
- https://cdn-prod.ser…Nairn
- deathboy-1
@utopian
You clearly think climate change important. Yet you seem never able to share a personal opinion. Just lot of copy and paste. So i'm curious exactly what you think man is doing and its causes regarding climate change? Is it helping towards cooling or warming and is it more powerful than historical regular climate change? And do you think humans can control climate and if such a belief at what cost? What power should those be granted to save the earth from such travesties and what liberties will be denied for such aims?
You passionately copy paste. But do you have any thoughts of your own?
- utopian1
Welp, Scientists Found 28 New Virus Groups in a Melting Glacier
This is how the world ends.
From Tibet to the Arctic to Antarctica, glaciers and ice caps around the world are melting at alarming rates. Scientists are racing the clock and climate change to collect, identify, and catalogue the microbes found in ancient ice. Having a record of these bacteria, viruses, and fungi paints a sharper picture of our prehistoric past and could be valuable for use in studying future pathogens.
- YES! FinallyPhanLo
- First X-Files movie yo!ideaist
- I thought viruses were a 20th century invention. Who would have thunk!deadsperm
- https://www.youtube.…Bluejam
- utopian2
- hahahaha this should be in Conspiracy of the Day!MondoMorphic
- Gnash0
So twitter’s new ban on political ads has had the unfortunate side-effect of also banning ads from groups that are fighting climate change.
So exhausting. It’s science not politics. As long as this issue is conflated this way nothing will change (aside from the climate)
- Completely agreed. It's just one big UGH at this point.garbage
- "It’s science not politics" - you my friend have no clue.pr2
- The fact that it is seen as a political issue is a triumph of modern marketing sadly. Oil companies spent a huge amount of money to make it seem that way.yuekit
- Lol, pr2, you certainly have the lock on cluesGnash
- Can we just get rid of twitter?i_monk
- @i_monk +1
..and FB while we're at itKrassy - climate forecasting is modelling; not science, which is hypothesis-theory-me... (replicate)-test-val...BustySaintClaire
- @BustySaintClaire is speed science when predicting the outcome of a vehicle going fast? and modeling an outcome unless breaks are installed?Krassy
- It's really more like predicting how fast that vehicle will be going next Tuesday.monNom
- You realize science is 100%, entirely, all about predicting outcomes of phenomena, yes?i_monk
- ^ thisGnash
- forecasting models represent the actual scientific method at workmonospaced
- The only reason to deny this science is if you've been brainwashed to do so by anti-science religious conservatives. That seems to be the group behind it all.monospaced
- I wouldn’t go as far as including a religious element, profits are enough of an incentive to deny the scienceGnash
- True. But those people not profiting who still deny it ...monospaced
- and all the models put forth in the last 50 years have been without a doubt accurate? models are not hard science. more along lines of social sciencedeathboy
- mostly opinion and bias based on donors criteria. There is more data in stock markets and yet that seems impossbile to predictdeathboy
- Oh boy, you got so close to understanding something. So close.garbage
- The hypocrisy of "mostly opinion and bias based on donors[sic] criteria" from someone denying near-unanimity among scientists in favour ofi_monk
- a position that's *entirely* opinion and bias based on industrialists' criteria.i_monk
- imonk do you follow the large opinions in the markets as truth? if not why
? they do possess far more amounts of data.deathboy - scientists (more stats, less science) like economists are bought. and for a reason. they present usually false predictions like any weather reportdeathboy
- just think about the view of it and mechanisms controlling itdeathboy
- should also question that "near unanimity" line. from who? was every scientist asked and what questions? ...deathboy
- i_monk7
Meet the Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/s…
There is a very well-funded, well-orchestrated climate change-denial movement, one funded by powerful people with very deep pockets. In a new and incredibly thorough study, Drexel University sociologist Robert Brulle took a deep dive into the financial structure of the climate deniers, to see who is holding the purse strings.
According to Brulle's research, the 91 think tanks and advocacy organizations and trade associations that make up the American climate denial industry pull down just shy of a billion dollars each year, money used to lobby or sway public opinion on climate change and other issues.
“The anti-climate effort has been largely underwritten by conservative billionaires,” says the Guardian, “often working through secretive funding networks. They have displaced corporations as the prime supporters of 91 think tanks, advocacy groups and industry associations which have worked to block action on climate change.”
- Nearly a billion dollars a year is flowing into the organized climate change counter-movement. Thanks Republitards!utopian
- yeah but those greedy scientists.inteliboy
- And the money behind the climate religion movement? You idiot.Hayoth
- there is a case to fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. curiosu about the cliamte "denial" label though. Is the money truely provided by climate change deniers...deathboy
- the same outcome of peopel who believe they can control climate through regulation and keep a status quo...deathboy
- you don't fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. you hire lobbyists to push your own business' interests.uan
- politics is business uan. it deosnt need to make sense if its an issue to be sold and campaigned upondeathboy
- also there is quite a business in carbon credits. hell fuzzy fincials helped float tesla to an illusion of profitdeathboy
- but it was just millions sold to casino to reduce tax incomes while providing money to losing businessdeathboy
- and as a company take subaru and arbitrary mpg levels fucking up cars and making people take shortcuts as the only way ( also VW). is it in best interests fordeathboy
- hakf engineered solutions to arbitrary probels that create faulty transmission or unstable motors? it is in business interestes to fight arbitrary legislationdeathboy
- because it changes the market. no longer is developing the best product ppl want to buy the goal. its making profit on a product behind arbitray goals and ruledeathboy
- in some cases developing a product no one wants and taking tax credits for it as ony profit.deathboy
- doesn't change the fact that polluting the planet is bad for you and the rest of us. but hey, go on singing your 'free markets' anthem.uan
- it doesn't matter, because green technology is superior and will succeed.uan
- lol@deathboyutopian
- Relax, Brulle's also studying the money behind the climate change and environmentalist movements.i_monk
- I know you rightwingers are all about 'balance' and 'both sides'.i_monk
- @hayoth "Climate religion movement"? Wow you're dumb.garbage
- And yay, we get to play the deathboy game. First word, last word, don't read anything in between.garbage
- "There profit."garbage
- haha uan way to move the goal post. yes uan polluting is "bad" for all we know to our current existence. But to ignore free markets and go all dictatorshipdeathboy
- and medievel in the name of all that is green is retarded. even half steppin with subsidies has been a waste that only helped the upper social class while imposdeathboy
- ing greater costs on the lower class. have u ever wondered if the balance between rich and poor in the eco realm of free amrket is those with the most to losedeathboy
- might try to have cake and eat it too financing regualtion that benefits them and hurts the majority all for a "greater" causedeathboy
- "haha cause"garbage
- these flippin looser redumblicas are already as horrific as the climate will become..neverscared
- haha whos a redumblicas never? sound like a old bat saying the mexican help are stealing but she has no help.deathboy
- "these help"garbage
- Supplemental links:
https://study.com/ac…garbage - https://study.com/ac…garbage
- haha garbage act like you cant understand what i said becuase of punctuation. oh shit i didnt capitalize my i either u madd brodeathboy
- if you want to discredit what im saying craft an arguement or provide something of substance or you keep doing u. just seems juvenile and uncouthdeathboy
- You haven't said anything of substance yet.i_monk
- wait all my comments about nature of lobbyists and sides had no substance? what do i need to provide numbers of pro climate change proceeds. i believe its moredeathboy
- than the "anti" by a large sumdeathboy
- That would be a start. You make a lot of unsubstantiated claims in these threads and ask everyone to disprove you, begging the question.i_monk
- hmm well it is tough. not much research into domestic and global lobbying towards green initiatives.deathboy
- har dto calculate such things liek diesal taxe sin the 80s to todays subsidies for solar and wind. Or even electric vehicles.deathboy
- and even if there was research it would be paid and highly biased. but i'd say with what we are seeing globally is a hot untapped market for corpsdeathboy
- to extract wealth from the public out of fearmongering. really interested to see what the kook at the ecb does.deathboy
- but... if the anti is a billion industry... ev credits alone is in tune to more of 15-20 billion besides all the other cardon and subsidy trades. I think thedeathboy
- pro climate change industry globally is in the trillions.deathboy
- especially if you look at m2 expansion and for political goals.deathboy
- but guess have to wait and see if your writer ever publishes the other side that gives some sor tof relevevance to his research. liek saying 30 degrees iscold..deathboy
- and than never telling anyone in what relation that is cold too.deathboy
- utopian0
A newly unearthed journal from 1966 shows the coal industry, like the oil industry, was long aware of the threat of climate change.
“Exxon knew.” Thanks to the work of activists and journalists, those two words have rocked the politics of climate change in recent years, as investigations revealed the extent to which giants like Exxon Mobil and Shell were aware of the danger of rising greenhouse gas emissions even as they undermined the work of scientists.
But the coal industry knew, too — as early as 1966, a newly unearthed journal shows.
In August, Chris Cherry, a professor in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, salvaged a large volume from a stack of vintage journals that a fellow faculty member was about to toss out. He was drawn to a 1966 copy of the industry publication Mining Congress Journal; his father-in-law had been in the industry and he thought it might be an interesting memento.
- How could pumping all the shit from the ground into the air not change the environment? Even without scientists, research and journals, it's fucking obvious.inteliboy
- I would have thought California's smog of the 1950s put an end to this debate?!? https://www.washingt…whatthefunk
- https://www.washingt…whatthefunk
- People don't care about anything but their own asses. Just look at the length people are going to excuse our Chief Clown. People are dumb, people are lazy.formed
- i_monk0
- im pretty certain at a point many coastal cities will be effected by climate change. what i question is the idea humans can stop that from happening. up theredeathboy
- with human sacrifice and chanting of irrational witch doctor shit.deathboy
- and yet so many people jump on the band wagon of any witch doctor that promises no change with a little blood magic of a sortdeathboy
- utopian-2
- Holy shit, the cloud patterns are exactly the same - what are the chances?!
What does it mean?Nairn - heheheOBBTKN
- hahahadeathboy
- or wait lol @ utopian.. stuff like this makes it hard to take you seriously you understand rightdeathboy
- @deathboy...no one here takes you seriouslyutopian
- well utopian again hard to take you serious on that statement... where is your data? best to speak for oneself before making statements you can't backdeathboy
- @Nairn: it's cyclic. like the earth around the sun or the moon around the earth...just a bit longer (39 years)uan
- or uan its lazy photoshop copy pasta and means nothing...deathboy
- Holy shit, the cloud patterns are exactly the same - what are the chances?!
