The Tip.
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Ok. I'm going to rant, you've been warned... this comes after another stupid, oversize tip I have been bullied into paying. I want back-up. Although this might be the right place to come...
Frankly (and I have been there) if you don't like the pay that your employer gives you, quit the fucking job already. It's a prime example of stupidity on the part of civil society that people in the catering industry expect tips. What's worse, they expect ME to give it to them. What for? What justifiable point is there? A restaurant pays it's staff in return for them making sure that orders are correct, on time, and special requests are honored... This is the job. It might be a shite job, but that's the fucking deal, that's the basis of capitalism. You get money, in return for doing something you don't want to do. Why should the punters pay for this twice?! The debate always comes down to same shit too... and I'll wager it will again.
"It's a hard job and they don't get paid well....." BooHoo.
QUIT THE JOB.
"The boss keeps the service.." Crying a river....
My boss takes about 10 weeks holiday a year, and has a holiday home in fucking florida....
QUIT THE DAMN JOB.
I don't ask for tips. Nurses don't ask for tips and their job is far more worthy, and they get paid fuck all too. Maybe these waiters and waitresses can tip the nurse after they remove my spoon from their ass.
Furthermore, if "service" isn't included, just what part of the job are they being for exactly?
Turning up?
Merry Christmas!
Sorry.
- ********0
Whinny asholes:
http://www.bitterwaitress.com/st…
- usrper0
dude, come to hk, its a non tippers heaven.
i forgot about that ordeal when i got here last night, and i tipped the cab 3 bucks, (less than 50 cents US), and he thanked me straight out.
- blackspade0
ha couldnt agree more
thank fuck we dont have to deal with tipping here in NZ
it never made any sense to me whenever ive been to the states
stoopid
- ********0
IF I've been given exceptionally good service that goes BEYOND what they're paid for anyway, then I actually want to give them something....
BUT all too often they'll stand there with an expectant face that seems to be saying
"so where's my fucking tip?"Then I tell them firmly and loudly WHY they're not getting a tip :
"You honestly have the AUDACITY to want a tip?? WHICH part of your repertoire merits special treatment?? The face like thunder?? The dog's breath?? The slamming of plates onto the table?? The half hour wait for coffee??"
- iDp0
simply ... as time went on and tips became customary here in the states the salary was reduced greatly. Without your tips even waiters in the nicest of restaurants make minimum wage.
I was a waiter and my gf is one now. Wait till you see what happens when you stop tipping all together...prices will go up (so that restaurants can pay to have halfway decent employees working there), less skilled people will be serving you your food (think of the people you KNOW make minimum wage and imagine them handling your food), not to mention I would imagine that the chances of a waiter getting you that extra slice of lemon that you love to be next to nil...thats if they can understand english at all.
But no, tipping will never die...and waiters in the states will continue to hate foreigners for not understanding or caring. And foreigners will continue to stiff waiters because they feel that tipping is stupid. Such is life and I'm glad I am no longer involved in food service.
Basically...tips are somewhat figured into a waiters salary, only difference between our waiters and your waiters is that you as a customer can legally withold part of our waiters salary. If I go to NZ and don't tip, your waiter still goes home with the same amount of $$.
- Gorbie0
i tip like a crazy fat rich american pig when i visit europe.
it's the only thing that will make them put up with my humiliating presence.
- Gorbie0
especially before the euro when i had no idea what all that change was actually worth...
- ********0
lol Gorbie,
that is so accurate!
Do you also shout off about how "everything is bigger and better back home"??
- Gorbie0
you call that a steak?! we got cows bigger than your cars back home!
- ********0
See iDp - everything you've said is geared to make me feel like there's some social responsibility on my part, to make sure waiters don't get a shit deal. That's bullshit. It's same blackmail tactics that beggars resort too.
- Blofeldt0
LOL Gorbie.
I don't mind tipping a standard 10% if they've made the effort.
On a side note. I hate waters and waitresses anyway. I think it should all be self service, they're just servants that don't come home with you.
- Blofeldt0
On another side note. I hate restaurants too
- iDp0
moth - I really could give a shit if you never tip again in your life. I worked as a waiter and I can tell you that I wouldn't have done that if I knew that I was going to just make minimum wage. So in essence you are riding the coat tails of the people who do tip so that you can enjoy the benefit of more skilled waiters who only work in that profession because they expect to make the rest of their salary on your tip. Don't feel bad, a lot of foreigners don't understand...I helped them understand by not brushing off their food when it 'slipped'. It's all fair in the end mate.
- soda0
moth, were you hugged as a child?
- ********0
you call that a steak?! we got cows bigger than your cars back home!
Gorbie
(Dec 17 04, 03:00)The steak in the US was good. The steak in South Africa was the simply the best in the world.
- brtman0
Makes me want to see Reservoir Dogs' opening scene again:
MR. WHITE
'Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.'
- soda0
right now moth, the ghosts of christmas past, present and future are all working out their schedules to make sure they fit you in over christmas....
- ********0
lol iDp...
But you pay for the meal after eating it. I don't go in and be an ass. I just don't tip. I understand perfectly well the reason behind "tipping" - and it's just plain wrong.
- ********0
Hahhhaa... Thanks soda. I'll go tip a nurse or someone who deserves it. Mr White was spot on.
I'm not grumpy, I just don't like being fucked over... and I like to say something rather than just stew.
- Blofeldt0
i agree with moth.
The only person I want to tip are the people who cut my hair. They give a you a few beers, snacks and are really nice in general, oh yeah, and are really good hairdressers. I enjoy going to get my haircut. And get this. They don't let you tip over £2!
*Minces off